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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 07:22 PM


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What cliffy should have said is the single parent birthrate is 70%! The same statistic for Asian women is 12.6%!

One must wonder if that is why Asians are effectively banned from the race and gender set-asides even though they have been discriminated against in the recent past.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 07:31 PM


You right wingnuts ramble on about social conditions of blacks, but you refuse to admit that CRT is true and systemic racism exists in the USA in local, state and federal govt.
Perhaps you right wingnuts will see the light, admit racism is rampant in your party peers, and and admit affirmative action, systemic change and reparations are required to fix the broken system and right the wrongs.




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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 07:42 PM


Goat,

The Asians were ‘wronged” too, in fact if you recall the Supreme Court 14th amendment case that finally settled the “If you’re born here, you’re a citizen here” issue featured an Asian as the plaintiff.

So why are they as a class different?
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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 08:10 PM


"What cliffy should have said is the single parent birthrate is 70%!"

Why? Because you also have ignorant, stereotyped, prejudiced notions about single parent households? Every single parent I know, both dads and moms, and I've known lots, have raised wonderful, hard-working, successful kids, not a dead beat or criminal among them.



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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 08:26 PM


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Asians - 12.6% single parent births not 70% and they’re banned from the race and gender set-asides! You still haven't answered why!

They are the decedents of laborers who were sold by their own governments to those building the railroads after the civil war. Most were illiterate in their own language and certainly in English. Before the great WW2 internment those in California were primarily gardeners, fisherman and farmers. Yet just a generation or two later they don't qualify for free stuff from the Left.

So exactly why are they treated differently?
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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 08:33 PM


The US Dept of Justice did a large study on this issue a few years back and came to these conclusions:
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/single-p...
A significant shift in social interventions came about in an attempt to help struggling families stay together.




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 09:20 PM


First off, that study starts with a false premise of considering "single parent families" to be "fatherless", when there are also single dads raising their kids, and furthermore, just because it's a "single parent household" does not mean the children are either "fatherless" or "motherless", it simply means the parents don't live together. The kids may very well have strong, healthy relationships with the parent they don't live with all the time. It also presumes that just because children live with one parent that they don't have strong male or female role models in their lives- which could be a relative or adult friends. It also presumes that lesbian couples' children are at risk because there is no father, which is totally false and prejudiced.
A study that starts out with erroneous presumptions isn't one I would consider to be unbiased and scientific.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 09:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
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Asians - 12.6% single parent births not 70% and they’re banned from the race and gender set-asides! You still haven't answered why!



What does the single parent rate have to do with diversity programs? You are conflating 2 totally different issues.
As usual, cognitive dissonance from right wingers.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2023 at 09:35 PM


I think you misread that abstract Surabi; These were the conclusions of the attached study by the Dept of Justice, not the presumptions they began with. I can only conclude that the vast majority of single parent families at the time were indeed absent a father rather than a mother. Perhaps this is no longer the case. However, the vast majority of teachers, police and co-students questioned were evidently in agreement with the conclusions.



A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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