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Probiotics Might Help Ward Off COVID-19
With the winter increase in cases this might be of interest to all!
TUESDAY, Dec. 19, 2023 (HealthDay News) -- Probiotics might be able to help people dodge the worst effects of COVID-19, new clinical trial results
show.
Unvaccinated people who took a lactobacillus-laced probiotic had reduced COVID symptoms and even delayed infection, researchers report in the January
issue of the journal Clinical Nutrition.
The study suggests probiotics could be a simple and inexpensive way to treat folks who’ve been exposed to COVID, researchers said.
Probiotics are designed to boost the beneficial bacteria and yeasts that live inside the body, primarily the gastrointestinal tract.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-12-19/...
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How about hot chili?
I find myself craving chili peppers during cold and flu season, is my body trying to tell me something?
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Probiotics reduce COVID symptoms and delay disease among unvaccinated
The finding could be a timely intervention as COVID-tracking data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show hospital admissions and
deaths on the rise in the U.S. at the same time holiday celebrations will bring people together. Additionally, fewer than 20% of the U.S. population
has received the 2023 updated COVID vaccine, according to the most recent CDC data.
"Prior to COVID, there was strong evidence that probiotics were protective against respiratory infections," said Paul Wischmeyer, M.D., associate vice
chair for clinical research in Duke's Department of Anesthesiology and co-lead author of the study published in Clinical Nutrition. "Once COVID hit,
it was imperative to determine whether this simple, well-tolerated intervention could be useful. Our study provides encouraging evidence for the use
of probiotics."
I’ll look into chili peppers too!
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-12-probiotics-covid-symp...
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Antioxidant, Anti-Obesity, Nutritional and Other Beneficial Effects of Different Chili Pepper: A Review
“Fruits and vegetables are important components of a healthy diet. They are rich sources of vitamins and minerals, dietary fibre and a host of
beneficial non-nutrient substances including plant sterols, flavonoids and other antioxidants. It has been reported that reduced intake of fruits and
vegetables may increase the risk of non-communicable diseases (NCDs). Chili pepper, is a common and important spice used to enhance taste and
nutrition. Over the years, reports have shown its potential as antioxidant and an anti-obesity agent. Obesity is a serious health concern as it may
initiate other common chronic diseases. Due to the side effects of synthetic antioxidants and anti-obesity drugs, scientists are now focusing on
natural products which produce similar effects to synthetic chemicals. This up-to-date review addresses this research gap and presents, in an
accessible format, the nutritional, antioxidant and anti-obesity properties of different chili peppers. This review article serves as a reference
guide for use of chili peppers as anti-obesity agents.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8839052/#:~:tex...
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OSG, It helps with Dementia too!
I have taken them for years, you should give them a try!
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General Baja (Lower) has a whole new purpose it seems!
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Ditto. Great thread Clark. This stuff is really important.
Got h. pylori in Baja years ago tested endo/colon and then triple antibiotics for weeks, more testing. Only stomach bug that will become cancer.
Intense ab pain and repeated burping no air coming up.
Kefir most days now. Think Kombucha is an option and sauerkraut, kimchi.
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Does one really expect any forum member to take the advice on personal medical matters from certain poster and posers, on this site?
Is this what Nomad has become?
The surgeon general of Fla. just declared the covid mania a hoax. How did such an ignoramus ever become the voice of health regulation in Fla?
I will bet some here will agree with Fla.'s surgeon general who came to his exalted position, just how? His medical history in Africa?
Yes, I know the continent is made up of individual sovereign nations.
How did this forum become a haven for mis and dis information?
Who ya gonna trust? What is damn sure is, my choices will not be influenced by any posters here. I will rely upon the medical professionals over the
actors who mistakenly think they have something of value to add. They do not.
With a trip planned next month I will be updating my covid booster this month from over a year ago and a RSV vaccine for good measure.
You do you. So be it.
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Quote: Originally posted by surfhat  | Does one really expect any forum member to take the advice on personal medical matters from certain poster and posers, on this site?
Is this what Nomad has become?
The surgeon general of Fla. just declared the covid mania a hoax. How did such an ignoramus ever become the voice of health regulation in Fla?
I will bet some here will agree with Fla.'s surgeon general who came to his exalted position, just how? His medical history in Africa?
Yes, I know the continent is made up of individual sovereign nations.
How did this forum become a haven for mis and dis information?
Who ya gonna trust? What is damn sure is, my choices will not be influenced by any posters here. I will rely upon the medical professionals over the
actors who mistakenly think they have something of value to add. They do not.
With a trip planned next month I will be updating my covid booster this month from over a year ago and a RSV vaccine for good measure.
You do you. So be it.
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It is absurd that right wing has become anti-science. And a shame that americans, who used to be quite smart, have decided that if science/facts
disagree with their politics, they declare the facts to be lies and the scientists to be liars. America is lost, gone, just a bunch of religious
idiots and quacks.
Woke!
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Posting topical information is not “giving medical advice”. In fact up until recently the US medical community generally has presented probiotics
as “useless or even bad for you”. Suddenly a few years ago a link between dementia and the mix of bacteria living in people’s guts was
discovered. Since then a relationship has been established to other conditions and now to COVID.
Surfhat,
You might want to read the papers written by medical professionals that the articles are about before you trash them. Your response sounds remarkable
closed minded and even “political”! (Gasp!)
Full disclosure, I’ve had all my COVID shots and booster plus Flu and RSV shots as well. Politics doesn’t enter into it.
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Taken at face value, the subject line "Probiotics Might Help Ward Off COVID-19" doesn't really bother me. Probiotics are good for a lot of things, and
chances are people who use them have other healthy habits that would minimize the chances of infection. I do get concerned when gullible people infer
that probiotics or any other COVID preventative popularized on YouTube, TikTok, etc., are superior to vaccines. I will note that the OP was careful
not to say this.
Two of my sons have refused to get vaccinated, one of whom has been experiencing long COVID symptoms for over 2 years. His employer, a pizza parlor in
NY, did not mandate vaccination. My youngest son, a roofer, defied a vaccine mandate established by his company and was fired. His next company didn't
have that policy. My middle son, an Army reservist, didn't have the option. He had a bad case of COVID early on - pre-vaccine - and by the time the
mandates came along he eagerly rolled up his sleeve.
Like surfat, I received my booster a few weeks before the holidays, with no side effects. Better yet, no COVID so far, but I did see both of my
unvaccinated sons (and my eleventh grandchild) between Christmas and New Year's Day. Fingers and eyes crossed, as they say.
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Don't understand the science behind probiotics. Fermented foods like kefir, etc., is good for the stomach for the problems I had (pylori) and
that's what I'm hooked on. Once you've had pylori and been treated, you'll know you don't want to go through that again.
All this goes along with having a good diet (forget refined/processed foods) and exercise.
I'm going with my original post. Great post, Clark.
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Paul,
I don’t personally see vaccination as a political statement. I have been vaccinated for COVID, Flu, RVS and diseases you probably never heard of. I
personally believe that people who don’t vaccinate their children are criminally negligent.
Neither of the articles are politically motivated. Both refer to a study by a group at Duke University. There are other similar studies from the UK
and Europe. Nowhere does anyone suggest this is a replacement for vaccination. They do suggest that it is effective in treating long COVID in both the
vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
Different studies have shown that gut health influences other chronic diseases for which there are few or no effective treatments.
The only and whole point of comparing two groups of unvaccinated patients is to focus on the single difference between the groups. That difference is
probiotics.
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Unfortunately,
A bunch of anti-science right wing nut pols made vaccinations political…. and now there are a lot of low information MAGA types that think
vaccinations are nefarious evil plot hatched by commie liberals.
Proving that people are really stupid!
Woke!
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Paul,
I don’t personally see vaccination as a political statement. I have been vaccinated for COVID, Flu, RVS and diseases you probably never heard of. I
personally believe that people who don’t vaccinate their children are criminally negligent.
Neither of the articles are politically motivated. Both refer to a study by a group at Duke University. There are other similar studies from the UK
and Europe. Nowhere does anyone suggest this is a replacement for vaccination. They do suggest that it is effective in treating long COVID in both the
vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
Different studies have shown that gut health influences other chronic diseases for which there are few or no effective treatments.
The only and whole point of comparing two groups of unvaccinated patients is to focus on the single difference between the groups. That difference is
probiotics. |
Three of my five kids are unvaccinated, but none of them for political reasons. They're basically stubborn millennials who don't like being told what
to do. When my youngest one was fired from his roofing job for not getting vaccinated, he said that he was forced to resign. I corrected him, saying
that his employer had given him a path to retaining his job that he chose not to take.
My employer, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, established a vaccine mandate for employees who chose to return to campus. Those who remained
unvaccinated were mandated to work from home. Due to new campus regulations regarding how many people could occupy an office, I was also relegated to
working remotely, which suits me just fine!
Living in New England for the past 28 years, I've learned to avoid politics and religion - although I make an exception for the Red Sox, which
arguably fall under both categories.
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Paul,
Hopefully if they are ordered to leave a burning building they will respond differently.
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From your mouth to Dog's ear!
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