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"There is a tire shop located in the town of Santo Tomás heading to the beach, where criminals act as pointers. They are known as Los Enanos and
heading towards Ajusco there is another CDS surveillance area. That way they have control of who enters and leaves through the drug routes."
I think of the time I camped by myself off the road that heads out to Punta Baja. Pretty sure I was watched then. A lone pick-up with an unfriendly
female driver slowly drove past my camp - came from the direction of the coast - no ranches out there - probably a lookout. That night there was
gunfire across the valley and multiple vehicles speeding away on that southerly road. I'm probably lucky to be alive.
At least we now know. Damn shame.
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Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  | "There is a tire shop located in the town of Santo Tomás heading to the beach, where criminals act as pointers. They are known as Los Enanos and
heading towards Ajusco there is another CDS surveillance area. That way they have control of who enters and leaves through the drug routes."
I think of the time I camped by myself off the road that heads out to Punta Baja. Pretty sure I was watched then. A lone pick-up with an unfriendly
female driver slowly drove past my camp - came from the direction of the coast - no ranches out there - probably a lookout. That night there was
gunfire across the valley and multiple vehicles speeding away on that southerly road. I'm probably lucky to be alive.
At least we now know. Damn shame. |
This organized crime, spotters looking for victims, could happen anywhere in baja. Past camping without incident is not indication of future results.
Things change, new meth heads created every year…
Just in the past few years the cartels in bcs infiltrated all of the fish coops, local sales of high value seafoods (all forced to cartel-controlled
wholesalers). The cartels are all up and down the remote coastal areas,… hard to know where the criminals are now, who is in charge…
Dont know if the locals really share the local knowledge of unsavory stuff happening.
Safety in numbers, and better to camp at established campsites
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Three years ago headed south from Bahia Asuncion, I found a nice access trail to a calm stretch of coastline just north of La Bocana. I wasn't there
very long before I was visited by a local "vigilancia" to see what I was doing.
It was just me and my dog, and we had no fishing or diving gear, so he wished us a good evening and told me he would be by a few more times that
night. He was a very friendly, pleasant person to practice my Spanish with.
He had a radio and I was glad to know there was someone else watching for strange cars.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Three years ago headed south from Bahia Asuncion, I found a nice access trail to a calm stretch of coastline just north of La Bocana. I wasn't there
very long before I was visited by a local "vigilancia" to see what I was doing.
It was just me and my dog, and we had no fishing or diving gear, so he wished us a good evening and told me he would be by a few more times that
night. He was a very friendly, pleasant person to practice my Spanish with.
He had a radio and I was glad to know there was someone else watching for strange cars. |
I wonder how strong the local vigilancia is today? Just down the coast there are cartel-supported shellfish harvesters that fish out of season,
exceed limits, etc. do you really think a local vigilancia can object if “poachers” move in and are backed by sicarios?
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LOOKING FOR
THE MISSING PEOPLE
OF MEXICO
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/08/opinion/mexic...
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Consider starting a new thread about disappearances and crime in MX.
You guys are highjacking this thread about 3 surfers who were murdered.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Consider starting a new thread about disappearances and crime in MX.
You guys are highjacking this thread about 3 surfers who were murdered. |
Exactly.
There's nothing more to be said about this tragedy.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Consider starting a new thread about disappearances and crime in MX.
You guys are highjacking this thread about 3 surfers who were murdered. |
Hundreds of thousands of people have disappeared in mexico. The 3 gringos are part of an epidemic. Nothing wrong about expanding the discussion to
the put the 3 gringos in perspective of the regional and national issue, of which the 3 gringos are just a few of the many.
The contrast is particularly notable, as the gringos garnered large and rapid response of government/police, and so many of the disappeared are
ignored by government/police.
Now that the story of the 3 is largely filled-in, people need to be aware of the local problem (areas being controlled by organized crime, abandoned
by police) and how the problem manifests nationwide.
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The families of the 3 surfers are lucky that govt looked for them and found them.
In other parts of the country people disappear, the govt does not look for them, and the govt attacks and criticizes the private citizens who look for
and find the missing…
Mexican officials again criticize volunteer searcher after she finds more bodies
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-officials-again-criticize...
Mexico’s president accuses press and volunteer searchers for missing people of ‘necrophilia’
https://apnews.com/article/mexico-searching-mothers-disappea...
Mexican govt is so flocked up.
[Edited on 6-2-2024 by mtgoat666]
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Additional suspect arrested:
https://apple.news/A4GgeUedrSWe95kV6RwRf2w
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