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Forget the margaritas it's time for Mexican wine!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/03/forget-marg...
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Great article. Thanks for posting!
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At some wineries in Valle de Guadeloupe you can purchase their bottles before the label is applied which allows you to avoid the current tax of 51% in
Mexico. After the label is applied you are going to pay that + the 16% IVA at the retail level.
[Edited on 1-3-2016 by durrelllrobert]
[Edited on 1-3-2016 by durrelllrobert]
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Feels like a "paid for" article to me, but I dont know follow the Daily Beast much. Not that much substance behind the scenarios presented.
Still, have to disagree with her choice of closing "quote". The area is NOT blessed with an abundance of "good", fresh water. That's a rather
important natural resource in viticulture. There have been many recent legal fights over the water in the valley. It appears to be a diminishing
resource. Maybe desalination will help them, but agriculture uses a lot of water. Desal water is not cheap.
There are also questions on the "goodness" of said aquifer water. Just like over here in Sonora, you start overpumping out of an ancient aquifer and
ocean water can begin to intrude, even though you are many miles from the ocean. Even uncompromised water is very alkaline in desert areas. Just too
many chlorides and carbonates hanging around from the millenniums before farming became so big. And with the drought continuing, the aquifers arent
being replenished as fast as it's being drawn and the rains can't leach out some of the built-up alkalinity in the soils.
For the author to not have even mentioned the controversies in the water in the Guadalupe Valley, tells me it was a puff piece.
Viticulture in Baja is a huge challenge, irrespective of their pricing.
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Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert  | At some wineries in Valle de Guadeloupe you can purchase their bottles before the label is applied which allows you to avoid the current tax of 51% in
Mexico. After the label is applied you are going to pay that + the 16% IVA at the retail level.
[Edited on 1-3-2016 by durrelllrobert]
[Edited on 1-3-2016 by durrelllrobert] |
Somebody help me understand the logic behind this 51%, INTERNALLY, that Mexico supposedly slaps on wine. Why would they do that to a relatively
fledgling industry? Especially since Mexico does not consume a great deal of wine, per capita, as other countries.
Some of you have stated that the tax when it leaves the country is even higher.
I just cant seen the logic to this. Internal "protectionism" of the beer industry or the tequila industries seems like the only possibilities. Is that
what's going on? Seems like you wouldnt do that until the wine industry begins to challenge the tequila and beer industry in some metric; volume, per
capita consumption, something............
Another mystery of the Mexican government to ponder. When nothing makes sense, money in the hands of a special interest is often the answer.
You would think the Mex wine industry would have cranked up a media campaign to get this tax reduced. It makes it so hard to compete on an
international level. But maybe they really dont make enough to compete on an international level.
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Since when does the Mexican government make sense.Mex wine over priced,most of it.Sometimes OK,other times throw away.
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You can buy certain Mexican wines at San Diego area COSTCO's cheaper than you can purchase in Baja......go figure
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | You can buy certain Mexican wines at San Diego area COSTCO's cheaper than you can purchase in Baja......go figure
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Maybe they market it in SD County (at a loss?) as an enticement to come down and spend money on the hotels in restaurants in Guadalupe?
Of course, you wont be able to bring anything back, really.
Nothing makes sense in the world of Mexican wines.........unless, well, sometimes money needs to "disappear" in Mexico.
What's the latest on the water wars over there? Did they get it worked out?
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You can also purchase selected Baja wines on-line at:
www.LMAwines.com
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | You can buy certain Mexican wines at San Diego area COSTCO's cheaper than you can purchase in Baja......go figure
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You can also buy Oso Negro, the number one selling vodka in Mexico, at BevMo in San Diego as a PREMIUM IMPORT for around 5$ a liter more than in
Ensenada.
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Even with the 51% tax on each bottle of Mexican wine they are competitive in price with all foreign produced wines because of the import duty on
commercial quantities coming into Mexic. Under NAFTA wines coming or going into Mexico or the US are subjected to a preferential (reduced?) duty rate
by CBP but the good old IRS also charges tacks on an excise tax on wine imported into the US.
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| Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert |
You can also buy Oso Negro, the number one selling vodka in Mexico, at BevMo in San Diego as a PREMIUM IMPORT for around 5$ a liter more than in
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I'm a little more selective in my Vodka than Oso Negro.....but I do remember when each bottle had a little toy black bear on a keychain around the
bottleneck.
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| Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert | | Even with the 51% tax on each bottle of Mexican wine they are competitive in price with all foreign produced wines because of the import duty on
commercial quantities coming into Mexic. Under NAFTA wines coming or going into Mexico or the US are subjected to a preferential (reduced?) duty rate
by CBP but the good old IRS also charges tacks on an excise tax on wine imported into the US. |
They cant compete with Chile, in my neck of the woods.
I particularly like the wines from the Tarapaca vineyards for reasonably priced cabs. 95-105 for the reserve. The Gran Reserva is about 160 pesos.
There are many other good ones in the 100-150 range from Santa Carolina and Santa Rita.
On the white side, Antares (from Chile) makes a decent Sauv Blanc for 65 pesos over here. A Chard, too.
Heck, we even have Gallo Family Vineyard wines at Walmart for 100 pesos. They have a Pinot Noir, a Cab, a Sauv Blanc and a Chard. All are decent,
though lacking in much oak.
Suddenly, Walmart is flush with the Barefoot line of wines. I havent tried those in years and found them lacking, at the time. They are also in the
100-150 range. That seems expensive, for what I paid for them way back when. But, hey, the dollar is making a run at 18/1 today. A 100 peso bottle of
wine is about 5.60 if it gets there.
Even the LA Cettos and the Santo Tomas wines are much more expensive than that, over here. The only Monte Xanic wine that is UNDER 300 pesos is a
Chenin Blanc/Colombard blend. All the others are north of that, including ones that are 400+ pesos.
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