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Cisco
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Slowly the noose tightens....
New biometric screenings for travelers going into Mexico.
"OTAY MESA (CNS) - Some travelers leaving the United States via the Otay Mesa border crossing will undergo biometric identification scans as Customs
and Border Protection officers begin testing new technology kiosks Thursday.
The CBP began screening certain foreign nationals entering the country via the port of entry on Paseo Internacional in December. CBP officials said
biometric exit testing at the border's pedestrian crossing was an extension of the inbound phase of the project.
The biometric data will be garnered from travel documents at recently installed kiosks identical to those used for inbound processing. The testing is
set to run until May, and no biometric data will be requested from American citizens either on entry or exit, according to the CBP.
"CBP is committed to testing, deploying and implementing biometric technologies in a way that accomplishes our security and facilitation missions,''
San Diego Field Operations Director Pete Flores said.
"This test will help inform technological next steps in developing and implementing a biometric entry/exit solution, not just on the land border, but
in all environments.''
Starting Feb. 22, some foreigners leaving the U.S. will have their facial photograph and iris image captured and compared with their entry records.
It's similar to what has been taking place during the inbound phase of the project, in which testing applied to foreign visitors who were normally
subjected to fingerprinting when they apply for visas and other travel documents.
CBP officials said improving technology for comparing entry and exits will bolster their efforts to secure the border, address immigration overstays,
identify persons of interest and improve reporting and analysis of international visitors."
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bajaguy
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Unless you are certain foreign nationals, why worry??
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wessongroup
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Seems reasonable to check out folks that fit a "profile" ...
How about these guys 
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AKgringo
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It sounds like this only applies to the pedestrian crossing. The only time I entered Mexico at Otay, I don't think I even came to a full stop before
I got a green light. I did not even see a human around the entry point!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Gulliver
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Laughing so hard. I had forgotten those fools.
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Bob and Susan
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did you know the most common "biometric" is the fingerprint...
if you think you are ever "anonymous" when you travel...well
think again
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motoged
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Definitely high risk profiles:
One is Mexican and the other is Canadian/Chinese....  
Don't believe everything you think....
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JoeJustJoe
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Sounds like Big Brother is everywhere, where do they draw the line between security concerns, and your privacy rights?
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If You Go Near the Super Bowl, You Will Be Surveilled Hard
highlights from the article:
Tracking Your Car
As the government pointed out back in 2014, Automatic license plate readers (ALPR) are fairly ubiquitous in Bay Area law enforcement. You’ll find them
on utility poles and mounted on police cars. The devices can, as the name suggests, read a plate and record the location, time, and date. This data is
stored in a database, allowing law enforcement to track where you drive, how often, and how long you spend at a particular place. Over time, that
information can reveal details about where you live and work, where you worship, romantic relationships, and other things. Authorities collect this
information without a warrant, regardless of whether or you’re under investigation.
http://www.wired.com/2016/01/govs-plan-keep-super-bowl-safe-...
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MrBillM
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Don't Get Caught Doing a Crime...................
And their surveillance will be a waste of Time.
A couple of days ago, I read that the San Bernardino Sheriff's department will be phasing in License Plate Scanners on ALL of their patrol
cars.
GREAT !
Round up those Offenders !
BTW...............In PUBLIC, you don't have (or shouldn't have) ANY Privacy Rights short of being searched without cause.
[Edited on 2-13-2016 by MrBillM]
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Cisco
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WHAT'S NEXT???
From the article Terry:
""CBP is committed to testing, deploying and implementing biometric technologies in a way that accomplishes our security and facilitation missions,''
San Diego Field Operations Director Pete Flores said."
Keep em spread Guy. This goes along with the whole insidious nightmare.
"...in a way that accomplishes our security and facilitation missions,''"
Perhaps in a year everyone who crosses the U.S. border or is anywhere inside our boundaries will be participant.
Bob hit on it: "if you think you are ever "anonymous" when you travel...well
think again"
More hassles, more stops, more illegal searches because they can; more ways to opt out of programs they created by spending money, "Sentri", TSA and
others are fine for the 'wealthy' but are not financially feasible for the poor that cross daily and these "special programs" are extant to get you
out of what they set up to impede you.
Wish I could do that in an open business environment.
More and more restrictions. Certainly it will influence all of us Terry.
https://m.reddit.com/r/OperationGrabAss/
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MrBillM
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ONLY for the Wealthy ?
HM ?
We have Sentri cards.
And, Joe says that we're Dirt Poor.
Anyway, get over it.
As Confucius say: "When .......... is inevitable, relax and enjoy it".
And, as Doris sang: "Que Sera Sera".
"It's only a Bad Dream for those who aren't Clean".
I said that.
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Cisco
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Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  | HM ?
We have Sentri cards.
And, Joe says that we're Dirt Poor.
Anyway, get over it.
As Confucius say: "When .......... is inevitable, relax and enjoy it".
And, as Doris sang: "Que Sera Sera".
"It's only a Bad Dream for those who aren't Clean".
I said that. |
Gee, I didn't think you listened to Joe.
Dirt poor in the U.S. may have a different connotation in another man's mind and country where his daily wage makes you look wealthy or middle-class.
Perhaps the shake-down and outright robberies we have seen in Baja is more indicative of that impression than putting it on the cartels or illegal
drugs in general.
Oh, on being "clean." You have been bragging about felony illegal carrying a concealed weapon (gun) in California for 50 years. Perhaps when they
search you or your vehicle "because we can" you will realize your hypocrisy.
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wessongroup
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Glad ya liked it ... IT was a joke
Some get it .. others not so much 
In all the decades I've gone to baja ... I've NEVER been stop and pull over into secondary
Me and my wife's cousin ... did have to leave a number of bottles of Tequila with the guys at the check coming back into the States in 63 .. We just
broke the bottles and poured the contents into the drain ... and the broken glass in the trash ... Thanked them for letting us handle it in that
manner and headed north
We knew we couldn't bring all of them back ... but, gave it a try
At that time, they only asked WHERE were you born ... and your WORD was OK ... How times have changed
And never had any problems at the "check point" just before Rosarito ... while down for over a year .. .the guys were nice .. they even got to know
both the wife and myself ... as we seemed to be going up to Rosarito a lot ... for things ... plus got to know a guy that owned a body shop ... that i
liked and tried to help out as much as I could with business operations and getting customers
He was about as old as my son, and he appreciated my advice and help ... as did his family .. they would come down and stay with us .. while renting
at km 44.5 ... The kids had a ball, as did the wife and our two dogs plus .. their Pit Bull, that took a liking to me
He and his family were very nice people .. trying to make it under very difficult circumstance ... which most Mexican's must operate under ... when
trying to make a living in Baja
Sadly they were all killed in a head-on (all six)... while driving to visit his family in Michocan .... and to attend a Catholic pray event, which
they attended yearly RIP
His name was Bob ... he died too
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Cisco
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Which one is the Mexican Ged?
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bajaguy
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The government knows more about you than you do....so what??
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WHAT'S NEXT???
From the article Terry:
""CBP is committed to testing, deploying and implementing biometric technologies in a way that accomplishes our security and facilitation missions,''
San Diego Field Operations Director Pete Flores said."
Keep em spread Guy. This goes along with the whole insidious nightmare.
"...in a way that accomplishes our security and facilitation missions,''"
Perhaps in a year everyone who crosses the U.S. border or is anywhere inside our boundaries will be participant.
Bob hit on it: "if you think you are ever "anonymous" when you travel...well
think again"
More hassles, more stops, more illegal searches because they can; more ways to opt out of programs they created by spending money, "Sentri", TSA and
others are fine for the 'wealthy' but are not financially feasible for the poor that cross daily and these "special programs" are extant to get you
out of what they set up to impede you.
Wish I could do that in an open business environment.
More and more restrictions. Certainly it will influence all of us Terry.
https://m.reddit.com/r/OperationGrabAss/ |
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MrBillM
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Still CLEAN after ALL these Years
Having carried one Handgun or another in my vehicle for better than 50 years (mostly in California) and NEVER been cited, THAT has to say a LOT in
favor of my prudent behavior and character.
Admittedly, after a REALLY close call with the Mexican Army, I DID stop transporting back and forth in Baja back around '98. Choosing instead to
leave a .380 at my place. Just in case.
SO, I have no worries, Mate !
BTW, I always find it amusing that, on my many trips to/from Arizona, on one side of the Colorado I'm carrying Legal and a hundred feet or so later
NOT.
As to those Po' Folks, IF they can't afford an insignificant cost to traverse into the U.S.........................WHY would we want them ?
We've already got too many people with too few resources.
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wessongroup
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After "butt" inspection when I joined the service ... Always kinda thought they really knew me ...
Then they put me in ATC ... which required a Top Secret clearance and talked to my youth pastor at the First Baptist Church of Downey ... I
knew for sure they knew ALL about me ..
Which actually helpful in my employment later on it life .. .a number of times... The DOD, EPA, State of California and the IRS ... what else needs to
be said .. .
Hell the IRS knows my BP which would include what medication I'm taking currently which is all prescribed by my Doctor and paid by either Medicare or
Supplemental Medical Insurance I/we pay through the nose for
And something which really starting to hit the states medical pensions ... Those in Medical Insurance Industry aren't in it to Help People ... rather
make money ... which they do very well with as my cost have double within the past 8 years
And I'm sure the actuarial (bean counters) folks have it down to the penny, how much more I can contribute to the "slush" fund called the Federal
Government .... to with in a few months
Me worry about what the Government KNOWS about me .. Surely you jest
Gravity Waves is more important to me than what the Government knows about me
Here's something for Cisco ... funny has hell IMHO ... btw this came out in 1996
forewarned is forearmed
[Edited on 2-14-2016 by wessongroup]
[Edited on 2-14-2016 by wessongroup]
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Cisco
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For Terry, who is top posting again.
"Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government. Among deprivations of
rights, none is so effective in cowing a population, crushing the spirit of the individual, and putting terror in every heart." -Justice Robert
Jackson, chief U.S. prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials, 1949
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wessongroup
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Not sure I would use "arbitrary government" in defining the Untied States ... just saying
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MrBillM
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Much ado about nothing much more...............
..................Than another Cisco Conspiracies R US Delusion.
The U.S. Government has every RIGHT and every RESPONSIBILITY to insure the integrity of the borders.
Given the "proven" FACT that there are those crossing NORTH from Mexico using identities other than their own, the "stated" purpose
of the program makes perfect sense.
Even IF you carry the conspiracy delusion further and "accept" that the program provides further and more detailed information on those crossing the
border in EITHER direction......................SO WHAT ?
Those making the crossings, no matter what the frequency, and are NOT engaged in criminal activity "might" suffer "minor"
inconvenience and delay.....................SO WHAT.
It's a small price to pay if it enhances security and interdiction of Illegal persons or materials.
Grow up, Cisco.
The Boogey Man is NOT manning the border.
Although, He may STILL be under your Bed.
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