| bajaguy 
 
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| Tesla Powerwall 2 
 
 https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/28/teslas-powerwall-2-packs-o...
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| DENNIS 
 
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 The new target for enterprising thieves.  Maybe hang it inside the garage?
 
 
 
 
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| Russ 
 
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 It's great that there are more and more options for our full time solar systems. I just bought new batteries 2 years ago so I'll have some time to see
how these Tesla power cells hold up and if they're going to be cost effective. Maybe as new innovations are developed the cost of lead acid batteries
will become more reasonable. I hate the maintenance of lead acid batteries. Telsa's roof tiles seem like an attractive option too.
 
 
 
 
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| ehall 
 
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 Technology keeps pushing forward. Tesla new car with roof solar panels is interesting also.
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| larryC 
 
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 Didn't we just go over this stuff a month or 2 ago? Or is this something new from Tesla since then?
 
 
 
 
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| Tesla Not Marketing for OFF Grid Systems 
 
 The Tesla powerwall system is meant for typical grid tied solar systems where the panels are in series to get a voltage in the 400 volt range.  So if
you want to use this Tesla battery in an off grid system you need to get the voltage from the panels or batteries up to about 400 volts . Then the
voltage output has to be 240/120 for use in your house.
 If you want Lithium Iron P04 (LFP)  batteries , they are typically 3.2 volts per cell and of varying Ahs up to 700.  8 of the 3.2 volt cells will get
you to a 24 volt nominal system. Thus you can use your present inverter and solar charge controller. Then you should have a BMS  ( computer) that
keeps the cell voltages balanced.  There is no maintenance and you can draw out 80% without shortening the life/cycles.
 Specifications[VERY HARD to FIND!)
 Since March 2016, there was only a single model: the 6.4 kWh version for daily cycle applications[7], before the Powerwall 2 was introduced:
 Model	Price	Voltage	Current	Power	Energy	Energy per price	Operating temp.	Weight	Dimensions (H x W x D)
 1	US$3,000	350–450 V DC	9.5 A	3.3 kW	6.4 kWh
 2.13 Wh/US$	−4 to 110 °F (−20 to 43 °C)	214 lb (97 kg)	51.3 in × 34 in × 7.2 in (130 cm × 86 cm × 18 cm)
 2	US$5,500			7kW peak / 5kW continuous	13.5 kWh
 
 
 
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| StuckSucks 
 
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 Tesla Unveils its New Line of Camouflaged Solar Panels
 
 Also, scroll down for more on the Powerwall.
 
 
 
 
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| MulegeAL 
 
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 I wonder if they have made any progress with shading issues that lead to large voltage output drops.
 
 Seems like having so many discrete tiles/panels could offer some wiring/gridding options to deal with that.  I have no idea how these tiles
interconnect.
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