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kencolamarino
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Cartel San Jose Shootings
Actually saw a man shot in the Mega parking lot Last Saturday. My Primo an hour later pulled up pictures of the body in the lot someone took with
their iPhone. That makes about 20 shootings in the last two weeks related to a take over effort. Apparently the rules in Los Cabos have changed. I did
an English language search and came up with zip. Excellent news control.
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carlosg
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Seems like Spanish reading folks did get the news after all... three days ago:
https://colectivopericu.net/2016/11/12/sanjosedelcabo-homici...
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kencolamarino
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The article is interesting to me for its lack of information. No indication that the shooting was drug related, or that it's the 20th such shooting in
the last two weeks related to control of the drugs market in Los Cabos. Many of the locals here are related to, or know some of the lower folks
involved and know exactly what's going on.
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kencolamarino
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Last night, demonstrations were held in the square in front of the city building in San Jose (approximately 300 people), and under the bridge at
Zipper's arroyo (approximately 700 people). They were protesting a variety of issues, primarily the drug related shootings the last two weeks. The
folks at the city building were primarily employees from Palmilla who were protesting the tourists cancelling reservations as a result of the
shootings. The Federales controlled the arroyo crowd, and the city police controlled the San Jose crowd.
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Bill Collector
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Thanks, appreciate the updates
Barb
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rts551
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This article says the violence in La Paz (which is worse than San Jose) is reversed. good luck... Most people NOB want to ignore it or are in
denial. yesterday car stopped and robbed on the hiway by Guerrero Negro.
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/la-violencia-en-la-paz-se-ha-rever...
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/ciudadanos-de-loreto-fueron-asalta...
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BajaBlanca
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Ralph!!! What is up with that robbery? OMG
What a real shame that this is now part of our reality. Bummed, bummed, really bummed.
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chippy
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http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/ciudadanos-de-loreto-fueron-asalta...
Just like the rest of Mexico. Traveling at night = bad idea .
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Agreed.
Lots in the local dailies on facebook, e.g. El Sudcaliforniano, BCS Noticias, Zola Rosa, etc. with a translator app. Some background in English about
the current matter:
http://www.businessinsider.com/sinaloa-jalisco-cartels-fight...
Still lots of good things happening in communities, especially the work you do to strengthen people, Blanca.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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blackwolfmt
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IMO we NOB folk are not in denial. The crime that goes on in phoenix and the surrounding area alone makes Baja norte & sur sound like a great vaca
spot
So understand dont waste your time always searching for those wasted years
face up and make your stand and realize that your living in the golden years
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JoeJustJoe
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Kencolamarino, do you have any documentation, articles or anything that shows there has been 20 shootings in Los Cabos, during the last two weeks, as
well as the changing of the rules you talk about?
You also seem to mention your Primo in most of your posts. Is your Primo is where you are getting all this information from? Who is this Primo, who
takes center stage in all your posts?
Kencolamarino, I can't help but get a sense of panic from you about about Los Cabos, despite the fact the US State Department only tells us to
exercise caution in the area, and although homicide rates are rising, many of those homicides took place in La Paz where there is an increase of
public acts of violence between rival criminal organizations.
In other words American tourists are not being targeted.
Kencolamarino, in one of your other posts, you state you're former SF ( special forces) and former LE( law enforcement) and you brought guns into
Mexico legally.
C'mon, Kencolamarino, get a grip. There were 25.8 million international tourists to Mexico in 2015, and almost all of them made it back home safely
despite an uptick in homicides in a few areas of Mexico.
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Lee
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Relax. If you're not involved with drugs, it's improbable you'll be shot. Like a broken record, this stuff comes around regularly. Baja is a
dangerous place. Leave while you can.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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mtgoat666
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Relax? I recommend staying alert and vigilant.
Highway robberies are happening. Don't drive at night.
The trend appears to be worsening crime.
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rts551
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Quote: Originally posted by Lee  | | Relax. If you're not involved with drugs, it's improbable you'll be shot. Like a broken record, this stuff comes around regularly. Baja is a
dangerous place. Leave while you can. |
Yes that is correct. Just relax. That is why the local news is recommending not to travel this section at night OR early morning. Local police
are telling me to avoid Guerrero Negro altogether right now. This article also talks about a local vendor beaton and robbed of 4000 pesos. Yes,
just relax.
http://guerrerodesal.com.previewc75.carrierzone.com/reportan...
[Edited on 11-18-2016 by rts551]
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shari
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We came home from GN late yesterday afternoon at dusk and we are extra vigilant as the holidays grow nearer...we are always hyper aware of cars
passing us, behind us etc. and really try to avoid traveling after dark.
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gnukid
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Being realistic would help. violence and crimes in BCS are rampant. There is a significant increase in violent crime and theft in BCS. There is little
being done to stop it, policing and courts are of little help. You should expect to encounter a problem with criminal activity and have a plan.
Do not carry valuables or for that matter do not purchase or keep with you or in your home anything extra or unneeded. You should not leave valuables
in the car or anywhere visible unattended. Keep vigilance high, use security systems, have someone in the home at all times when possible, do not
leave you home unattended. Use security cameras. Lock everything and review to be sure things are well locked up. Open your eyes. Report to the pubic
what issues you encounter and be clear about what risks exists. If you see something do everything possible to draw attention, inform others, take
photo and video of criminal suspects and be willing to help victims.
Ignoring the issue and acting like it isn't happening or its not a problem is not the answer. Understanding that criminal justice is practically non
existent in bcs is a place to start.
Do nto trust people without building a long history.
Be a good neighbor.
[Edited on 11-18-2016 by gnukid]
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt |
IMO we NOB folk are not in denial. The crime that goes on in phoenix and the surrounding area alone makes Baja norte & sur sound like a great vaca
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I suggest that people be aware of their surroundings when in certain areas of Baja while they are there and not worry about Phoenix.
Read the baja forums and many people (NOB people) tell you not to worry, its all drug related. While it is drug related, you can get caught up in
it as the few people in Guerrero Negro have.
Read BCSNoticias.com and you will read of the constant violance in BCS with innocent people getting caught in the middle some times. or other crime
like the 4 year old girl raped and killed the other day in La Paz. Home break ins have become common place.
The Baja Peninsula is changing.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by shari | | We came home from GN late yesterday afternoon at dusk and we are extra vigilant as the holidays grow nearer...we are always hyper aware of cars
passing us, behind us etc. and really try to avoid traveling after dark. |
I sure would. The guy that robbed my house and stole my car in June is the same guy that robbed the bus at gun point last month. Did he have a gun
while burglarizing my house...I don't know but obviously I am extra vigilant right now.
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by shari | | We came home from GN late yesterday afternoon at dusk and we are extra vigilant as the holidays grow nearer...we are always hyper aware of cars
passing us, behind us etc. and really try to avoid traveling after dark. |
I sure would. The guy that robbed my house and stole my car in June is the same guy that robbed the bus at gun point last month. Did he have a gun
while burglarizing my house...I don't know but obviously I am extra vigilant right now. |
How do you know the same guy that robbed your house and stole your car is the same guy who robbed that bus at gun point last month?
It doesn't sound like you were home during the robbery.
Did the guy use your car during the robbery or did he confess to committing both crimes?
What I recommend is getting a dog. I been a home owner for at least 30 years in many places, and never had a break-in, although many other homes have
been hit by home break-ins wherever I lived, because crimes and violence happen everywhere.
I even recommend a dog(s) over owning a gun, because there is a chance if a home robbery did take place, the gun would be taken away from the home
owner, and used against them.
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by shari | | We came home from GN late yesterday afternoon at dusk and we are extra vigilant as the holidays grow nearer...we are always hyper aware of cars
passing us, behind us etc. and really try to avoid traveling after dark. |
I sure would. The guy that robbed my house and stole my car in June is the same guy that robbed the bus at gun point last month. Did he have a gun
while burglarizing my house...I don't know but obviously I am extra vigilant right now. |
How do you know the same guy that robbed your house and stole your car is the same guy who robbed that bus at gun point last month?
It doesn't sound like you were home during the robbery.
Did the guy use your car during the robbery or did he confess to committing both crimes?
What I recommend is getting a dog. I been a home owner for at least 30 years in many places, and never had a break-in, although many other homes have
been hit by home break-ins wherever I lived, because crimes and violence happen everywhere.
I even recommend a dog(s) over owning a gun, because there is a chance if a home robbery did take place, the gun would be taken away from the home
owner, and used against them. |
Police said he did it (along with others), that is how I know (He advertised my generator for sale but police said he no longer had it). I was
home, asleep. Dog was with my wife who was up North. Grandson and I were home. Now you can quit the conjecture. Could be someone scoped things
out first.
I would not tell you or anyone else if I had a gun here. Yes, a noisy dog is always a plus.
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