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Another thread in the chitter.
Very close to schlocking.
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JoeJustJoe
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Mama Espinoza's, it seems has been getting bad reviews at least way back to 2007 on "Baja Nomad," where many members complained about restaurant,
calling it an over priced tourist trip.
And ELINVESTIG8R, the restaurants, number one fan, in 2007 didn't even try to defend the restaurants food, but instead made excuses for Mama, who was
pushing 100 years of age, and was no longer involved with running the restaurant.( see his post in page 4)
I'm at a lost why this obvious over priced tourist trap gets so much play on this site, maybe, compared to "Taco Bell" it's great.
$10 dollars, for 3 tacos in a small town in Baja, in 2007, should have been a crime if you ask me.
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Here is the first post in the thread in 2007 about Mama's:
Mama Espinoza's -- never again
Someone before mentioned overpriced these days----understatement! Ten dollars for 3 taco dorados and some rice and beans-----grossly overpriced.
We are not crazy about eating at Baja Bed and Breakfast----too many flies and having someone on a fly killing rampage while we are eating, is just not
fun. Besides, too many smokers.
So, since we really like staying at Baja Cactus, we need to keep trying other places to eat.
Diane
see the rest of the thread here:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=26312
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DENNIS
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Whoever might have expected such a development? I'm freekin stunned.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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soulpatch
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Jajajaja, it's Obama's fault.
Wait, no, who was that hero, the guy who closed the state hospitals?
Is it his fault?
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Hook
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Isn't it about time these clowns were shown the door?
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Nashville Frank
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Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  | Mama Espinoza's, it seems has been getting bad reviews at least way back to 2007 on "Baja Nomad," where many members complained about restaurant,
calling it an over priced tourist trip.
And ELINVESTIG8R, the restaurants, number one fan, in 2007 didn't even try to defend the restaurants food, but instead made excuses for Mama, who was
pushing 100 years of age, and was no longer involved with running the restaurant.( see his post in page 4)
I'm at a lost why this obvious over priced tourist trap gets so much play on this site, maybe, compared to "Taco Bell" it's great.
$10 dollars, for 3 tacos in a small town in Baja, in 2007, should have been a crime if you ask me.
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Here is the first post in the thread in 2007 about Mama's:
Mama Espinoza's -- never again
Someone before mentioned overpriced these days----understatement! Ten dollars for 3 taco dorados and some rice and beans-----grossly overpriced.
We are not crazy about eating at Baja Bed and Breakfast----too many flies and having someone on a fly killing rampage while we are eating, is just not
fun. Besides, too many smokers.
So, since we really like staying at Baja Cactus, we need to keep trying other places to eat.
Diane
see the rest of the thread here:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=26312 |
 
Trip Advisor's rating = 4 out of 5 ****, 84 reviews [Terrible=3, Poor=4, Average=21, Very Good=19, Excellent=19]
Google Reviews = 4.2 out of 5 ****, 35 reviews
There are multiple Trip Advisor website ratings listed in a google/bing search but with different star amounts.
But, if you go to these webpages, they're all the same, even though they may be in English, Spanish, German, or from England or elsewhere
Are some of you just taking the lowballers comments as "gospel" and ignoring the Very Good to Excellent which far outweigh them?? Seems like
maybe....
And of course, they far outweigh them because they've been eating so much of Mama's food!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Yes by all means please show the clowns the door. They do not belong in here with polite
society. Jeeeezus!
Mama Espinoza’s Restaurant is a great place to get a great meal and hang out. They have free WIFI too for your cell phones and computers. The password
is on every table. Stop in and tell Roly or Gerardo that you are a friend of mine (David) the one who plays his guitar in the kitchen when he comes to
El Rosario and that I sent you. You will be treated like royalty.
[Edited on 1-9-2017 by BajaNomad]
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greengoes
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
Those that know me, know I don't have a poor sense of adventure, or always like to have that heard experience, and in fact I like to go where I
don't see a lot of Americans, especially the ugly Americans. complaining in a loud voices, that something is not as good as it is back in the
states.
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lol....you never go further south than Zona Norte
ANUNCIATE AQUI
DISPONIBLE
INFORMES LLAMA SNOWBALL - 646-115-7754
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motoged
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This guy makes Mr. Bile seem sort of mellow....
How about a smile, Davey ?
Don't believe everything you think....
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Udo
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Thanks for your comments, Frank.
I was in the restaurant business, and know what it is like.
Have you read any of my other previous posts regarding their (now defunct) crab soup? Those should have sent hundreds of people to the restaurant. I
have eaten there dozens of times for breakfast lunch and dinner.
This was not just a case of a bad day at the restaurant. It is a pattern after the matriarch passed away.
We were the ONLY ones at the restaurant, and had to wait an hour for an omelette and sunny side up Huevos Rancheros. A meal that should take 5-6
minutes to prepare. And did I mention it took an hour to get the food served and it was barely warm?
| Quote: Originally posted by Nashville Frank | | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
If this restaurant can't put out decent good quality food on a consistent basis, and at a reasonable price, then perhaps they should turn the place
into some kind of shrine or pubic museum....
I also pay close attention to reviews, and when you see the same complaints over, and over again.... |
Hey JoeJustJoe,
From my experience in the restaurant business and as an eater of their products, I have come to understand that many who have had a good to better to
great experience with their food are so much less interested in communicating to world their experience, than are those who had bad to terrible
experiences.
When they feel "robbed/snubbed/mistreated" etc. they're going to speak out and usually loudly. Hence the negative reviews which outweigh the good
reviews. I've gone to the very same places as the negative crowd and I did not find it so. On the other hand, though, I've gone to places highly
loved and came away wondering why anyone would eat there.
There's so many variables. Time of day, cook, waitress, what was ordered, your mood, your health, your expectaions, the weather, your bank account
level, etc.
Also, when dealing with "foreign" food such as Mexican, you're going to get a variation in likes and dislikes, as you will in varieties of Mexican
food. I'm from California and growing up, I always knew what Mexican food was like. That was before Taco Bell ever appeared. But since then I've
lived in many states and their Mexican was not always my Mexican. It sort of depends on what you get accustomed to. And where the restaurant's owners
and cooks are from. And then there's the Tex/Mex issue: popularized "Mexican" food that is modified to fit the taste palates of Americans. This
Tex/Mex is an infusion of Mexican, American (mostly Texan), and some Southwest Indian. So is it Mexican? No! What is Mexican food?? Well I can't tell
you. I've eaten from Merida to Zacatecas to Baja and in between and its all different.
So, I say all this to say: give it a try yourself. Those reviewers may not have it right, but then again they might. Restaurants come and go.
Sometimes its management, sometimes its the food. In America, up to 90% of all new start restaurants close in there first year! Of those that
remained open after one year 70% of them closed in 3-5 years. 90% of restaurants still open after five years will stay in business for a minimum of
10 years. Mama's did that! Much more than that! Sure these longstanding restaurants have their reputation to bolster them. But, they learn to
change with the times and the changing of customers.
I think Mama's is just fine and will weather the onslaught of Travel Advisor reviewers. Its family and many here feel a part of that family!
Stop by sometime...
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Udo
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David K
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You should have walked out after 20 minutes Udo. It is not the only place in town. We have been lucky at Mama's but usually go to Ed's (Baja's Best)
for meals.
We last ate at Mama's in July (2016), for breakfast, with Antonio and Itzela... all went well, food was good.
Sad that Roli isn't maintaining the place or her son/ grandson(?), who did so well remodeling the place in 2009.
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mtgoat666
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Said miss manners! 
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ELINVESTIG8R
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SAID THE JOEJUSTJOE SYCOPHANT
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I AM SMILING!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | | [rquote]=1063193&tid=85364&author=Udo]We were the ONLY ones at the restaurant, and had to wait an hour for an omelette and sunny side up
Huevos Rancheros. A meal that should take 5-6 minutes to prepare. And did I mention it took an hour to get the food served and it was barely warm?
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I've been in restaurants here and watched the dishwasher leave the building to go to the store for things needed to fill my order.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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vandenberg
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
I've been in restaurants here and watched the dishwasher leave the building to go to the store for things needed to fill my order.
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Happens, especially in small towns where they operate on a shoestring budgetand can't afford to toss unused items. any restaurants worst waste of
money btw
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bkbend
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| Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg | | Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
I've been in restaurants here and watched the dishwasher leave the building to go to the store for things needed to fill my order.
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Happens, especially in small towns where they operate on a shoestring budgetand can't afford to toss unused items. any restaurants worst waste of
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I sort of assumed it to be standard operating procedure. Drink, be merry, then eat.
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I had a reason to travel to Pennsylvania several times this past year and spent time all over the state. In two places I was surprised to find a
Mexican restaurant in each that had awesome furniture from Guadalajara and a well stocked bar of south of the border concoctions. Several of the
dishes were run of the mill offerings standard but a few of the dishes were outright pleasingly authentic! And the big surprise was that they both
were staffed with a large group of Mexicans (mostly via Texas).
I've learned during a long life in San Diego that to visit the neighborhoods of the Mexicans was to find delicious original food either in their
eateries or homes (get your tamales here!). Finding such a large group of our southern friends led me to ask where they lived in this largely white
rural area of Pennsylvania. Alas they lived spread out and there was no distinctive neighborhood to remind me of what we take for granted in San
Diego.
The fun part was that at one time my wife and I returned to one of the restaurants with our Pennsylvania relatives...they wanted to know what to
order, how to eat it, and left the re-fried beans on the plates.
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He aint bad...
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