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I think it was Custer who said, "Give me just one machine gun, and I'll give you "loose slots" in my casinos.
[Edited on 2-4-2017 by DENNIS]
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  | | Mexico was a convenient scapegoat during the campaign, but now that Trump has picked bigger fights, is it too optimistic to think that The Wall could
end up on the back burner? |
I think trump fully intends to move forward with his plan. Let's just hope
congress makes it difficult (or impossible) for him to follow through with it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by imlost | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Mexico was a convenient scapegoat during the campaign, but now that Trump has picked bigger fights, is it too optimistic to think that The Wall could
end up on the back burner? |
I think trump fully intends to move forward with his plan. Let's just hope
congress makes it difficult (or impossible) for him to follow through with it. |
The wall will be trump's folly. He will spend a fortune on the wall and not fund the staff or infrastructure to do surveillance, so the wall will
just become a minor obstacle for smugglers...
So many things trump promises,... in 3 years even the deplorables will be able to see the emperor has no clothes!
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The article says "three congressmen propose". There's always three nut-job congressmen proposing something in the U.S. that never gets traction. Not
even a blip on the political radar. Just some journalist looking to get attention.
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The Wall Has Already Started Being Built
I was in a recent meeting with the company CEO I work part-time for. They have already received a contract to start the initial design for part of the
wall's infrastructure, i.e. 100' towers with observation platforms every 25'. I'm assuming for personnel and electronic surveillance. Consequently,
they are setting up another division within the company to bid on other wall projects (pending funding) and are currently actively looking to staff
that division. Talk is it will not be a brick-in-mortar type of wall but a mirror image of the type of fencing-system Israel built on its borders.
This method is much more inexpensive and easier to construct than a solid wall. A Congressman has already visited Israel in December to tour their
fencing system and forwarded his report to the current administration.
If the USA just copies the time-tested conceptual design and construction techniques of Israel's wall, the wall's completion will go much faster than
starting from scratch, thus taking a year or two off the wall's completion date. Guided towers like the one in the picture cost much less to design
and build than a self-standing tower like a radar tower.
| Quote: Originally posted by imlost | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Mexico was a convenient scapegoat during the campaign, but now that Trump has picked bigger fights, is it too optimistic to think that The Wall could
end up on the back burner? |
I think trump fully intends to move forward with his plan. Let's just hope
congress makes it difficult (or impossible) for him to follow through with it. |
[Edited on 2-4-2017 by Lobsterman]
[Edited on 2-5-2017 by BajaNomad]
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Pablo, I'm prepared. After 21 years and counting, if I tallied it all up my investment is $46,000 for the house, $10,000 for the bank trust, about
$200 for property taxes equals $$56,200 divided by 21 looks like it has cost me a whopping $225 bucks a month to be here, safe and sound for over two
decades. Not a bad deal even if they took the place today.
And yeah, they told me "Don't buy anything you can't afford to walk away from" so I didn't. I'm not too bright but I follow instructions well when
I'm sober (just that one day when I decided it would all be worth the risk).
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| Quote: Originally posted by Osprey | Pablo, I'm prepared. After 21 years and counting, if I tallied it all up my investment is $46,000 for the house, $10,000 for the bank trust, about
$200 for property taxes equals $$56,200 divided by 21 looks like it has cost me a whopping $225 bucks a month to be here, safe and sound for over two
decades. Not a bad deal even if they took the place today.
And yeah, they told me "Don't buy anything you can't afford to walk away from" so I didn't. I'm not too bright but I follow instructions well when
I'm sober (just that one day when I decided it would all be worth the risk). |
Jorge - Mary and I are beginning to see the light, and it's very much like the amber of a Pacifico bottle.
Even if these mythical three Congressmen of the apocalypse really did propose some sort of reprisal against gringos, I'm doubtful it would gain much
momentum. The forces driving nationalism in the U.S. don't seem to have a counterpart in Mexico, although I could be wrong.
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Quote: Originally posted by Osprey | Pablo, I'm prepared. After 21 years and counting, if I tallied it all up my investment is $46,000 for the house, $10,000 for the bank trust, about
$200 for property taxes equals $$56,200 divided by 21 looks like it has cost me a whopping $225 bucks a month to be here, safe and sound for over two
decades. Not a bad deal even if they took the place today.
And yeah, they told me "Don't buy anything you can't afford to walk away from" so I didn't. I'm not too bright but I follow instructions well when
I'm sober (just that one day when I decided it would all be worth the risk). |
Jorge - Mary and I are beginning to see the light, and it's very much like the amber of a Pacifico bottle.
Even if these mythical three Congressmen of the apocalypse really did propose some sort of reprisal against gringos, I'm doubtful it would gain much
momentum. The forces driving nationalism in the U.S. don't seem to have a counterpart in Mexico, although I could be wrong. |
Change is constant. The USA is closing it's borders, turning inward ala North Korea, and abandoning it's immigration heritage -- it may work, or it
may be a sign of the end of the USA. I think the later.
Perhaps as the USA decays into a sniveling nationalistic isolationist mess led by a deranged childish bully (he reminds me of Kim Jong Il, bad haircut
and all), Mexico will simultaneously rise, a golden opportunity, second rise of Aztec domination.
I suspect as USA becomes closed off ala North Korea, many other countries will have opportunity to take over market share that USA loses.
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History has shown that when nations build a wall it just perpetuates conflict between the people on opposite sides of wall, and tearing down walls
ALWAYS results in something better.
| Quote: Originally posted by Lobsterman | I was in a recent meeting with the company CEO I work part-time for. They have already received a contract to start the initial design for part of the
wall's infrastructure, i.e. 100' towers with observation platforms every 25'. I'm assuming for personnel and electronic surveillance. Consequently,
they are setting up another division within the company to bid on other wall projects (pending funding) and are currently actively looking to staff
that division. Talk is it will not be a brick-in-mortar type of wall but a mirror image of the type of fencing-system Israel built on its borders.
This method is much more inexpensive and easier to construct than a solid wall. A Congressman has already visited Israel in December to tour their
fencing system and forwarded his report to the current administration.
If the USA just copies the time-tested conceptual design and construction techniques of Israel's wall, the wall's completion will go much faster than
starting from scratch, thus taking a year or two off the wall's completion date. Guided towers like the one in the picture cost much less to design
and build than a self-standing tower like a radar tower.
| Quote: Originally posted by imlost | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Mexico was a convenient scapegoat during the campaign, but now that Trump has picked bigger fights, is it too optimistic to think that The Wall could
end up on the back burner? |
I think trump fully intends to move forward with his plan. Let's just hope
congress makes it difficult (or impossible) for him to follow through with it. |
[Edited on 2-4-2017 by Lobsterman] |
[Edited on 2-5-2017 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
Please don't publish crap like this here....or anywhere, Paul. It's like yelling fire in a theatre. It hasn't happened, and I sincerely doubt it ever
will. |
Hey Paul -- Dennis is not the censor here and has over stayed his welcome. Yesterday he was trying to censor me as being too dramatic.
Relative to what? How about the Washington fiasco -- that's drama.
Seriously Dennis -- chill and depersonalize the political stuff. You can always move back to Newport.
And Paul? This stuff is circulating in response to the new prez pu$$ygrabber's insistence that MX will pay for a wall. Things can change
overnight you just don't know.
Gringoes owning land in Baja should be aware that they have no rights in Baja and Napoleonic Rule applies if you're white.
Let's all hope for the best. I do this and expect the worst politically speaking. |
well said lee. paul, ignore dickish remarks
[Edited on 2-4-2017 by pacificobob]
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21 years ago
I should have mentioned that 21 years ago prices were very reasonable but there wasn't much down here. I didn't even know what I would find. Would
there be beer and munchies? Well, you can see I just did the best I could with what I had at the time.
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One sign the article could be "fake news" is the fact the article's writer, doesn't mention which three members of Mexican Congress, have an answer
to Trump's funding wall plans.
"Three members of the Mexican Congress have an answer to U.S. President Donald Trump’s funding plan for his wall on the southern U.S.
border."
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imlost
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Thanks for planting all of that cactus when you first came here, Osprey. It looks nice now. You should have kept some of those camels around. I've
heard those are handy.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | One sign the article could be "fake news" is the fact the article's writer, doesn't mention which three members of Mexican Congress, have an answer
to Trump's funding wall plans.
"Three members of the Mexican Congress have an answer to U.S. President Donald Trump’s funding plan for his wall on the southern U.S.
border." |
Yeah, I've been looking for corroboration of the original "news" and have yet to find it. Sadly, it meets the criterion of "fake news" in that it only
has to be feasible - not factual - to be news. North of the Border we call it "The Bowling Green Effect".
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Cost of "The Wall"... $60 Billion dollars.
"The Bowling Green Effect"...... PRICELESS. 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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| Quote: Originally posted by imlost | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Mexico was a convenient scapegoat during the campaign, but now that Trump has picked bigger fights, is it too optimistic to think that The Wall could
end up on the back burner? |
I think trump fully intends to move forward with his plan. Let's just hope
congress makes it difficult (or impossible) for him to follow through with it. |
I don"t see what all the commotion is about, the Chinese built a wall over 2000 years ago, and they still have no Mexicans.
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How about US Expats to Retaliate against Mexico
If the vast majority of Mexicos economy is either US expats, US tourism or US expatriated money from US to Mexico don't you think the greatest
leverage lies within US and the economic decisions and demands US expats make? Mexico does not exist as an economy without US dollars and US dollar is
the greatest influence. Stop your crying and comments like its not our country, when you are the economy and the current government doesnt function to
serve you then you decide with your payments what you will pay for. At the moment corrupt Mexico serves only a few thieves and hurts the rest of all
of us and must be stopped in order to bring a functional capitalist economy to benefit labor and business and support families not thieves.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | How about US Expats to Retaliate against Mexico
If the vast majority of Mexicos economy is either US expats, US tourism or US expatriated money from US to Mexico don't you think the greatest
leverage lies within US and the economic decisions and demands US expats make? Mexico does not exist as an economy without US dollars and US dollar is
the greatest influence. Stop your crying and comments like its not our country, when you are the economy and the current government doesnt function to
serve you then you decide with your payments what you will pay for. At the moment corrupt Mexico serves only a few thieves and hurts the rest of all
of us and must be stopped in order to bring a functional capitalist economy to benefit labor and business and support families not thieves.
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The USA economy depends on immigrants. No immigrants, the USA economy will collapse.
Trump is an a$$hat to be focusing on attacking immigrants, and especially the Mexican laborers that work 3x harder than lazy-a$$ European-descent
Americans.
The USA would benefit from deporting the lazy European-descent gringos all collecting disability from fake injuries. Have you ever met a retired
Irish cop that didn't take early retirement on fake disability claim?
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THAT is FUNNY !
Americans united and organizing in BIG enough numbers for LONG enough to effect influence on Mexican (or U.S.) policy ?
Yeah, Sure, You Betcha !
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mtgoat666
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Trump's Puppet-masters Bannon and Putin have 2 goals for the fence: keep Mexicans out, keep Americans in.
| Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi | | Quote: Originally posted by Lobsterman | I was in a recent meeting with the company CEO I work part-time for. They have already received a contract to start the initial design for part of the
wall's infrastructure, i.e. 100' towers with observation platforms every 25'. I'm assuming for personnel and electronic surveillance. Consequently,
they are setting up another division within the company to bid on other wall projects (pending funding) and are currently actively looking to staff
that division. Talk is it will not be a brick-in-mortar type of wall but a mirror image of the type of fencing-system Israel built on its borders.
This method is much more inexpensive and easier to construct than a solid wall. A Congressman has already visited Israel in December to tour their
fencing system and forwarded his report to the current administration.
If the USA just copies the time-tested conceptual design and construction techniques of Israel's wall, the wall's completion will go much faster than
starting from scratch, thus taking a year or two off the wall's completion date. Guided towers like the one in the picture cost much less to design
and build than a self-standing tower like a radar tower.
| Quote: Originally posted by imlost | | Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena | | Mexico was a convenient scapegoat during the campaign, but now that Trump has picked bigger fights, is it too optimistic to think that The Wall could
end up on the back burner? |
I think trump fully intends to move forward with his plan. Let's just hope
congress makes it difficult (or impossible) for him to follow through with it. |
[Edited on 2-4-2017 by Lobsterman] |
Seems that the fence top is cantilevered towards the tower side (US?) and should be towards the Mexico side...much harder to get over (unless like
state prisons you want to keep those inside in). Also, the asphalt is on the wrong side? |
[Edited on 2-5-2017 by BajaNomad]
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