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 Quote: Originally posted by motoged    |   
 
And out of the morning beer crawls Chuckie....don't let all the young guys scare ya.....they might have something valuable to say    |  
  
 
Now now....be nice to Chuckie. 
 
Anyway...another Trooduh, eh.   I thought you tax slaves were trying to extricate yourselves from the monarchy  model like we did by flushing Hillary
into her rightful place. 
 
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Getting rid of monarchy? 
 
So, you like the anarchy of your new king? 
 
And I AM being nice to Chuckie...
 
 
 
 
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Answering questions with questions.   
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When it Doubt ................... Panic ? 
 
 
Clearly, when the subject is TRUMP, there is NO shortage of overheated hyperbole. 
 
The oft-repeated specter of WWIII being (perhaps) the epitome. 
 
Whatever Crazed Chief Orangeskin might do to muck up world relations, even HE couldn't easily trigger a World
War. 
 
Get a GRIP. 
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Setting the Record Straight 
 
 
Two of the previous FACTS aren't: 
 
"Fact: Dems lost seats in Congress........... Fact: Dems lost seats in the Senate" 
 
In 2016, the Dems actually gained SIX House seats and TWO Senate seats. 
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 Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM    |  Two of the previous FACTS aren't: 
 
"Fact: Dems lost seats in Congress........... Fact: Dems lost seats in the Senate" 
 
In 2016, the Dems actually gained SIX House seats and TWO Senate seats. 
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And Hillary got millions more votes than the Donald! 
 
Trump and his "mandate" are illegitimate!
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And you need to brush up on elections and the constitution. Keep spouting your BS......You were apparently asleep in that high school/college class 
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy    |  And you need to brush up on elections and the constitution. Keep spouting your BS......You were apparently asleep in that high school/college class 
 
 
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Even a preschooler can comprehend that trump won due to meddling by putin, and the true will of the people is best illistrated by the popular vote win
by hillary.  
 
Trump is illegitimate president!
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Quit smoking the green stuff and get a grip on reality 
 
 
 Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666    |   Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy    |  And you need to brush up on elections and the constitution. Keep spouting your BS......You were apparently asleep in that high school/college class 
 
 
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Even a preschooler can comprehend that trump won due to meddling by putin, and the true will of the people is best illistrated by the popular vote win
by hillary.  
 
Trump is illegitimate president!  |   
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 Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi    |  "Make no mistake about the historical significance. Obama's two terms surpassed the losses of past two-term presidents in modern history, according to
the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, with the most profound showing in state legislative losses, for which Obama doubled the historical
average." 
Note: 'most profound' meaning among others... 
Note: 'Obama's two terms surpassed the losses of past two-term presidents in modern history' 
 
Hillary was a victim but not of Trump.  
And it seems the 'minority' isn't any longer either.  |  
  
 
Just goes to show you that a lot of US voters, were racist against Obama, and  fact is most Americans self-identify as conservative than liberal.
Conservatism is boring if you ask me.   
 
This is why you see so many backward red states that never got over the civil rights legislation  in the 60's. This year the  rust belt states
especially the rural areas,  might as well been southern states, because they loved Trump's anti-immigrant  and xenophobic dog whistles, that weren't
to silent. 
 
If you ask me, Trump's election was  White Supremacy's Last Stand in America, because in four years, the demographics will be different. 
 
This is also one of the reasons why I'm a " contrarian" and don't follow the crowd, because the crowd is always wrong. 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi    |  "This is also one of the reasons why I'm a " contrarian" and don't follow the crowd, because the crowd is always wrong." signed JjJ 
 
Wait...I thought the 'crowd' (aka 'majority') voted for Hillary and therefore you didn't(?) vote for Hillary because you "don't follow the crowd"? So
you voted for Sanders? Who got screwed by the Hillary 'crowd'. 
 
"Even a preschooler can comprehend that trump won due to meddling by putin, and the true will of the people is best illistrated by the popular vote
win by hillary."  
 
Sort of like the whole town knows something you don't and the guy you don't like rubs it in your face...but you would rather not have known because it
was the guy who told you the truth that you didn't know. Nobody is disputing what Putin exposed.  
 
P.S. check your computer spell check/sentence composition app to see if it's working...or give the preschoolers a break.   
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Hillary, did win the popular vote, thanks to California, but take Blue California out of the  popular vote equation, and Trump wins the election by
over 1 million votes, and Trump overwhelming wins the white vote 58% all over the country. In fact I believe Obama lost the white vote to both McCain,
and Romney, despite the fact Obama won the elections running away.  
 
I''m also responding to your correct claim Paranewbi, that  the Democrats lost Governor positions in the States, and the fact Trump won 30 US states
especially in the ex-slave states in south.  
 
Thanks to the electoral college it pretty much discounted the growing minority vote in the USA, and gave the whites voters even more strength to
engage in voter "Whitelash" a term coined by CNN's Van Jones.  
 
So forgive me if I still fell like a liberal minority in blue state of  California, in a country of red states that seem to be turning more
conservative as the years go by.    
 
Makes me wonder why so many white Americans, vote Republican. Are they really that conservative, or is something  spooking them to make the majority
of them to vote against their own interests and vote for an openly racist like Donald Trump? 
 
No I didn't vote for Bernie, and although I loved most of Bernie's campaign ideas, I thought in many ways Bernie, was like Trump, and was promising
voters something he couldn't deliver, seeing how entrenched the GOP was to stop Obama when he was in office.  I also didn't trust Bernie, because
during one Town hall meeting, the locals got Bernie to show his true self, when he was defending Israel's massacre of Palestinian babies, when most of
us that  study this issue,  know Israel uses  disproportionate force against Palestinians including against children.      
 
I also thought Bernie was too old looking to be President, and also believed the GOP would paint Bernie, as a socialist, as if something is wrong with
having socialist ideas.  In hindsight, I was wrong, and probably should have supported Bernie, over Hillary. It was great to see all that young
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Hillary who? Was she the wife of the guy who got BJ's in the oval office? 
 
 
 
 
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The Russians, the FBI, the Ku Klux Klan and .............. 
 
 
A number of other Usual Suspects may have had an influence on the vote, BUT.......................... 
 
There is no likelihood that one single vote was influenced by the opinions ventured here. 
 
Thoughtful, "Thought Full (?)", Incendiary, Vitriolic, Nonsensical or Imbecilic. 
 
In the end, they are ALL of equal value. 
 
Self-satisfying. 
 
Worth the price of admission and creation. 
 
And, nothing more. 
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe    |   Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi    |  "This is also one of the reasons why I'm a " contrarian" and don't follow the crowd, because the crowd is always wrong." signed JjJ 
 
Wait...I thought the 'crowd' (aka 'majority') voted for Hillary and therefore you didn't(?) vote for Hillary because you "don't follow the crowd"? So
you voted for Sanders? Who got screwed by the Hillary 'crowd'. 
 
"Even a preschooler can comprehend that trump won due to meddling by putin, and the true will of the people is best illistrated by the popular vote
win by hillary."  
 
Sort of like the whole town knows something you don't and the guy you don't like rubs it in your face...but you would rather not have known because it
was the guy who told you the truth that you didn't know. Nobody is disputing what Putin exposed.  
 
P.S. check your computer spell check/sentence composition app to see if it's working...or give the preschoolers a break.   
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Hillary, did win the popular vote. 
 
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Impossible to win a vote when there is no vote. Fact 
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It isn't the QUANTITY of the vote, it's the QUALITY of the vote. The vast numbers of the tax dollar parasites who owe their existence to the bloated
welfare state or the public employees unions located in the urban jungle pockets comprise the numbers we see. If you look at the red vs blue map of
the voting in CA, OR, WA, the vast amount of the territory in these states is red and went for Trump. These are the people who produce the wealth that
supports the tax dollar parasites and they are badly outnumbered. It has come to the point that they can no longer support the parasites. This
election is only postponing the inevitable for a little longer. 
 
 
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali    |   
 
Impossible to win a vote when there is no vote. Fact 
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Spot on! 
 
Thanks for the reply.  In this jungle one can not express his political views without a major backlash from the peanut gallery. You must be one of
those racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic individuals.  Are you not?  
 
Stay safe my friend and please do not wear a Trump hat in Baja. 
 
 
 
 Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver    |  It isn't the QUANTITY of the vote, it's the QUALITY of the vote. The vast numbers of the tax dollar parasites who owe their existence to the bloated
welfare state or the public employees unions located in the urban jungle pockets comprise the numbers we see. If you look at the red vs blue map of
the voting in CA, OR, WA, the vast amount of the territory in these states is red and went for Trump. These are the people who produce the wealth that
supports the tax dollar parasites and they are badly outnumbered. It has come to the point that they can no longer support the parasites. This
election is only postponing the inevitable for a little longer. 
 
 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver    |  It isn't the QUANTITY of the vote, it's the QUALITY of the vote. The vast numbers of the tax dollar parasites who owe their existence to the bloated
welfare state or the public employees unions located in the urban jungle pockets comprise the numbers we see. If you look at the red vs blue map of
the voting in CA, OR, WA, the vast amount of the territory in these states is red and went for Trump. These are the people who produce the wealth that
supports the tax dollar parasites and they are badly outnumbered. It has come to the point that they can no longer support the parasites. This
election is only postponing the inevitable for a little longer. 
 
 
 
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Doesn't matter whether you are for Trump or not.  We are on a path for economic collaspe unless something changes.  So we has a society better make
the necessary changes, or end up in the trash bin of history no one has escaped.  Economics doesn't recognize Blue or Red, it is color blind.
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Lobsterman, what do you mean spot on? LancairDriver, is completely wrong with his facts.  
 
It's true that the red states went for Trump, The red states, turned red during the 60's, during  Johnson's, civil rights legislation. Remember, when
President Johnson said," There goes the South for a generation?"  Johnson, from the state of Texas, knew how racist the south was. Nothing much as
changed in all these years. 
 
But where LancairDriver, is completely wrong, is where he claims it's the red states that " produce the wealth." 
 
That's completely  wrong.  It's the blue states that produce the wealth, and are rich compared to the poor red states . It's the red states that are
the welfare states. Just wait till the GOP eliminates Obamacare, the Trump's constituents in the red states are going to learn that they were taken
for fools, but then again the red states have been voting against their own interests for years.  
 
I do think the red states, and the bible belt,  still lead in porn consumption, according to a few articles that came out a few years ago.  
 
Regarding the insults, towards conservative voters. Nobody insults more than Trump.  
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Solved: Why Poor States Are Red and Rich States Are Blue 
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/01/04/solved-wh... 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 Quote: Originally posted by Lobsterman    |  Spot on! 
 
Thanks for the reply.  In this jungle one can not express his political views without a major backlash from the peanut gallery. You must be one of
those racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic individuals.  Are you not?  
 
Stay safe my friend and please do not wear a Trump hat in Baja. 
 
 
 
 Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver    |  It isn't the QUANTITY of the vote, it's the QUALITY of the vote. The vast numbers of the tax dollar parasites who owe their existence to the bloated
welfare state or the public employees unions located in the urban jungle pockets comprise the numbers we see. If you look at the red vs blue map of
the voting in CA, OR, WA, the vast amount of the territory in these states is red and went for Trump. These are the people who produce the wealth that
supports the tax dollar parasites and they are badly outnumbered. It has come to the point that they can no longer support the parasites. This
election is only postponing the inevitable for a little longer. 
 
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