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Haitian Invasion Imminent ?
Obviously, we're about to be inundated with French-Speaking Dark-Skinned Vagrants threatening to put our economy on the skids.
Be ready with ICE on your speed-dial in case you run into one.
Nip this threat in the bud.
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Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  | | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
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Yet they had time to line up a boat out of Haiti, secure funding to pay the captain (good samaritan ship show up and transport for free?) fuel, stores
of food and water, and a crew, steam the thousand miles to Central or South America, pay a coyote to lead them thru the jungles of Central America,
pay another coyote to wind their way north and payoff the MX officials to look the other way and land in Tijuana and then suck the resources of real
poverty plagued Mexicans and then pitch a hissy they don't like the food?....
And all the while a US Consulate and a Mexican embassy was just a cart ride away, down the lane in Port au Prince to apply for refugee status?...
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You are such an expert, your obesity and smugness befit you!
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Well, just how did they get to northern Baja....VISA, Mastercard, UN funding, piggy banks???
| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
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Yet they had time to line up a boat out of Haiti, secure funding to pay the captain (good samaritan ship show up and transport for free?) fuel, stores
of food and water, and a crew, steam the thousand miles to Central or South America, pay a coyote to lead them thru the jungles of Central America,
pay another coyote to wind their way north and payoff the MX officials to look the other way and land in Tijuana and then suck the resources of real
poverty plagued Mexicans and then pitch a hissy they don't like the food?....
And all the while a US Consulate and a Mexican embassy was just a cart ride away, down the lane in Port au Prince to apply for refugee status?...
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Really, those Haitians must have lots of money to do everything you claim above, or you have been reading " breitbart" or Alex Jones writings, and
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Only a trump voter could think that Haitian refugees are middle class travelers with credit cards! 
| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Well, just how did they get to northern Baja....VISA, Mastercard, UN funding, piggy banks???
| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
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[Edited on 2-26-2017 by JoeJustJoe] |
Yet they had time to line up a boat out of Haiti, secure funding to pay the captain (good samaritan ship show up and transport for free?) fuel, stores
of food and water, and a crew, steam the thousand miles to Central or South America, pay a coyote to lead them thru the jungles of Central America,
pay another coyote to wind their way north and payoff the MX officials to look the other way and land in Tijuana and then suck the resources of real
poverty plagued Mexicans and then pitch a hissy they don't like the food?....
And all the while a US Consulate and a Mexican embassy was just a cart ride away, down the lane in Port au Prince to apply for refugee status?...
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Really, those Haitians must have lots of money to do everything you claim above, or you have been reading " breitbart" or Alex Jones writings, and
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As usual, the point went over your head
| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Only a trump voter could think that Haitian refugees are middle class travelers with credit cards!
| Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy | Well, just how did they get to northern Baja....VISA, Mastercard, UN funding, piggy banks???
| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | | Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | | Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe |
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
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Yet they had time to line up a boat out of Haiti, secure funding to pay the captain (good samaritan ship show up and transport for free?) fuel, stores
of food and water, and a crew, steam the thousand miles to Central or South America, pay a coyote to lead them thru the jungles of Central America,
pay another coyote to wind their way north and payoff the MX officials to look the other way and land in Tijuana and then suck the resources of real
poverty plagued Mexicans and then pitch a hissy they don't like the food?....
And all the while a US Consulate and a Mexican embassy was just a cart ride away, down the lane in Port au Prince to apply for refugee status?...
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Really, those Haitians must have lots of money to do everything you claim above, or you have been reading " breitbart" or Alex Jones writings, and
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David,
Ya, you got that right  
Don't believe everything you think....
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The short of it is that the monthly income is only ONE of the conditions you have the option to meet.
There are other options. Real Estate worth, etc….but what they probably are seeking is under Political Asylum (if I remember correctly, that is a
condition you can apply under)….considering they are from Haiti.
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These Haitians were not fleeing rockets, barrel bombs, barbed wire, mortar fire and nightly wild eyed Jihadist raids.
They ran away from their countrymen, their families and their "society" as cowards....once the hurricane passed, the imminent danger was over and
Haiti was left with rescues, health care, feeding the hungry and rebuilding.
In Haiti's time of great need, with destruction and ruin, most stayed and helped the rescue, the cleanup, the rebuilding and changing of bandages on
the injured, distributed food and aid from various countries, set up shelters, cooked food and tried their best to make the land whole again.
And these 300 cowards ran away, hopped a tramp steamer to Central America, trekked north into Mexico with eyes on the USA... and looked for someone
else to care for, and feed them in the land of milk and honey....while their own countrymen stayed back and assisted with the leftover carnage
Despicable cowards.....when the Haitian people and aid workers were running into the danger to help, these cowards ran away from it all.....taking
money away from the relief effort to pay their transport to another world....while their brothers and sisters bled and screamed for a bit of gruel to
sustain them another day.
Able bodied Haitians, fully able to make the trek of thousands of miles by boat, on foot and overland in some of the thickest jungles of the entire
world......they just ran away.
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Now I understand why they call you people the deplorables!
| Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | These Haitians were not fleeing rockets, barrel bombs, barbed wire, mortar fire and nightly wild eyed Jihadist raids.
They ran away from their countrymen, their families and their "society" as cowards....once the hurricane passed, the imminent danger was over and
Haiti was left with rescues, health care, feeding the hungry and rebuilding.
In Haiti's time of great need, with destruction and ruin, most stayed and helped the rescue, the cleanup, the rebuilding and changing of bandages on
the injured, distributed food and aid from various countries, set up shelters, cooked food and tried their best to make the land whole again.
And these 300 cowards ran away, hopped a tramp steamer to Central America, trekked north into Mexico with eyes on the USA... and looked for someone
else to care for, and feed them in the land of milk and honey....while their own countrymen stayed back and assisted with the leftover carnage
Despicable cowards.....when the Haitian people and aid workers were running into the danger to help, these cowards ran away from it all.....taking
money away from the relief effort to pay their transport to another world....while their brothers and sisters bled and screamed for a bit of gruel to
sustain them another day.
Able bodied Haitians, fully able to make the trek of thousands of miles by boat, on foot and overland in some of the thickest jungles of the entire
world......they just ran away.
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Spot on Dali.
Your courage for calling it like it is, is not going un-noticed. The resident anarchists Goat & Joe despise anyone who does not believe in their
twisted view of the world and attack the messengers like you with vile instead of calmly discussing why they disagree with your comment. That seems to
be a appropriate response for the left's incivility today as Trump dismantles any record of Obama's legacy. A new era in USA history has started and
an old tired one is being retired, hopefully for good. Thank God I lived to see this day.
I've always wondered if the left's system is so great back home why are so many on the left living in Mexico fulltime. Seems to me it is not much
different from the Haitians abandoning their ship so as not to pay their fair share and assist their former country's growth. I guess one of the
reasons is so they do not to pay their fair share of taxes and other commitments to their former country of residence that raised them. Just make the
money and run with it philosophy. Very similar to what the above Haitians did to their country of origin.
Thank you President Donald Trump for your courage and unselfishness for giving our Country and our kids something to look forward to in the future
instead of hopelessness and 3rd World Status.
...................Obama's Legacy.....................................
| Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali | These Haitians were not fleeing rockets, barrel bombs, barbed wire, mortar fire and nightly wild eyed Jihadist raids.
They ran away from their countrymen, their families and their "society" as cowards....once the hurricane passed, the imminent danger was over and
Haiti was left with rescues, health care, feeding the hungry and rebuilding.
In Haiti's time of great need, with destruction and ruin, most stayed and helped the rescue, the cleanup, the rebuilding and changing of bandages on
the injured, distributed food and aid from various countries, set up shelters, cooked food and tried their best to make the land whole again.
And these 300 cowards ran away, hopped a tramp steamer to Central America, trekked north into Mexico with eyes on the USA... and looked for someone
else to care for, and feed them in the land of milk and honey....while their own countrymen stayed back and assisted with the leftover carnage
Despicable cowards.....when the Haitian people and aid workers were running into the danger to help, these cowards ran away from it all.....taking
money away from the relief effort to pay their transport to another world....while their brothers and sisters bled and screamed for a bit of gruel to
sustain them another day.
Able bodied Haitians, fully able to make the trek of thousands of miles by boat, on foot and overland in some of the thickest jungles of the entire
world......they just ran away.
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Instead of reading racist rants against Haitians. I actually researched what happened to the Haitian refugees, and found out why and how they ended up
in Mexico, although I ready had bits and pieces right in a few posts already in this thread.
It seems the Haitians are in Mexico due to first the Earthquake , that killed hundreds of Haitians and destroyed thousands of homes in 2010, and the
recent category 5 hurricane in 2016.
It seems since the 2010 earthquake, the U.S. has been letting Haitians in under a humanitarian parole provision, for three years. However, thousands
of poor Haitians who lost everything also made it down to Brazil, but the Brazilian economy had taken a big hit, and so many Haitians left Brazil any
way they could, train, boat, cars, and even walking to try to get to the US, under the humanitarian parole provisions.
However, with the overwhelming influx of migrants, the U.S. revokes that privilege on the basis of improved conditions in Haiti, but then the more
recent Hurricane Matthew hit, sending Haiti back into crisis, and gave Haitians hope they would be allowed back into the USA, although the official
policy in the US was still deporting newly arriving Haitians, at the same time the US officials were letting a very few into the US because of the
overcrowding.
Here we are now with a lot of Haitians stuck in Mexico, especially in Tijuana, where the Mexican people are showing hospitality to the migrant
Haitians.
No doubt with the Trump administration, who already wants to have a religious test for new immigrants to the US, probably will also want a skin color
test, so it looks like the Haitians will be stuck in Mexico for some time.
I would not be so quick to judge Haitians refugees, unless you personally walked in their shoes, but it's amazing so many closed border types and
so-called good Christians, could be so hateful toward the Haitian immigrants.
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Tijuana welcomes Haitian immigrants stuck at U.S.-Mexico border
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/tijuana-welcomes-haitian-immi...
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Not that you will be swayed, but what rational people observe:
1) No religious test: the enhanced screenings were for countries that lacked government infrastructure to verify IDs. That they were all Muslim
majority is what Fake news centered on. Saudi Arabia was not on the list, or most of the other Muslim majority nations.
2) Skin color??? Seriously weak. It is liberal politicians who make skin color a reason to divide us. Conservatives look at people as people and want
everyone to succeed. The only benefit of wanting poor people are to democrats who use them for votes but never want them to be without a need for
government programs.
Time to let the grown ups fix the mess the kids made the past 8 years.
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David K, Tell that to Muhammad Ali's son, who was detained and questioned for two hours, especially about his religious background. No doubt the CPB
agent thought he hit a jackpot, because not only was Ali, Muslim, but he was black too.
BTW, a recent study by the DHS reported that citizens from the 7 banned do not pose a increase in threat of terrorism, so it makes you wonder why the
Trump administration went ahead with their Muslim ban.
It's also not fake news that the Federal Courts, especially the 9th circuit ruled against the Trump 7 country Muslim ban, in part because past
statements count, and Trump and his other cronies talked about a Muslim ban.
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US border agents ask Muhammad Ali's son: 'Are you a Muslim?'
Boxing legend’s 44-year-old son detained and questioned about religion after flying back to US from Jamaica, lawyer says
Border agents detained and questioned the son of the boxing legend Muhammad Ali about his religion when he flew back to the US this month, a family
lawyer said.
“Where did you get your name from? Are you a Muslim?” they asked the 44-year-old Muhammad Ali Jr, who was born in Philadelphia and is a US
citizen.
When Ali confirmed to immigration officials at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood international airport in Florida that he was a Muslim, they began questioning
him about where he was born, family friend and lawyer Chris Mancini told the Courier-Journal newspaper. The questioning lasted for about two hours.
read the rest here:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/muhammad-ali...
[Edited on 2-27-2017 by JoeJustJoe]
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I just have to say that I am simply astounded with some of the hateful shyt I see in this thread.... 
Sad, deplorable, shameful....and not one bit of it represents anything to do with "Christianity"
Even the Pope says that those type of people should not call themselves "Christians"...and better to be seen as atheists.
And the crap about "anarchists" ....
Simply mind-boggling how some of you think.... 
Don't believe everything you think....
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I asked CBP who all those people were, waiting to be let into the line? They said
¨These are your new neighbors.¨
All winter long there were perhaps 100 Haitian refugees waiting to cross the border at the rio tijuana foot crossing, each and every day.
I suppose they were Hatians anyway. what I saw every day was 100 or so able bodied young men for the most part waiting to be let into the line.
Obama ordered 10,000 more refugees into the country at least a few times. About 5 weeks ago it stopped. Trump? I estimate some were late, and now
live in Mexacali. TJTQ is to cold?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUsv4Lb7EQs
I happen to know the richest Hatian of all. Well I have not talked to her in more than 10 years. She made her fortune as a fortune teller. Remember
the 1 900 late night comercial to call for your reading? (spoken in a mysterious accent.) She collected 1 billion USD in 1 900 bills. The courts
offered her 500 million to drop the bill collection case. She took it. I told her to go back to Haiti and build some schools. She tried. The
president of Haiti did not want schools built. He demanded a 30,000 dollar bribe. He said his son had a level 9 education and it did nothing for
him. Yes. the president of Haiti considers a 9th grade education a waste of time. Last I herd, she was having tax problems, she forgot to pay.
Does this aply to that?
http://time.com/4674517/immigration-haiti-mexico/
New Orleans people traveled far and wide asking for hand outs.
Key West got hit 4 times that year, katrina and 3 others. At some point the entire island was under 8 feet of water. They fixed it intime for
fantasy fest.
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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Perhaps 2 years ago I saw a large group of Cubans waiting to cross from Nicaragua to Honduras, heading for California. Why go the long way? Good
person that I am, I gave them what little food I had with me. Cuba seends the prettiest young ladies they have.
Tijuana is no bien para ninas.
The girl always loses in Tijuana.
Go another way.
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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The Maleficent Seven
While the Trumpeteer Troopers are fond of citing the B.O. order regarding those Muslim countries, they are either ignorant of the
substance of said action involving travelers or deliberately deceptive.
The effect of said order was to remove those travelers from the "Visa Waiver" program. Thus, bringing them under the normal
Visa application scrutiny.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Not unsurprising to see that some nomads have no ability to have compassion for Haitians.
Probably due to some nomads being so ignorant and closed-minded that they don't even have any idea of what has gone on in Haiti.
Other nomads are just selfish psychopaths that are aware of what has gone on in Haiti and simply say "tough chit."
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No, Sir, I'm fully aware of what they live through. But I'm here under the care of 2 specialists and a gp and I could go on and on about how I'm dying
of heart failure, have atrial fibrillation, COPD and now lung infections. Other Americans tell me that I must pay between 250 and 852 USD for a
residency card and I must prove 25,000 peso income minumum a month. I CAN'T DO EITHER TASK so I'm just wondering if I can show them the proof of my
situation, which wouldn't be difficult, and ask for the residency card for free.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe | Hurricane Matthew was a recent category 5 hurricane, so I don't understand the venom towards the Clinton Foundation.
It also seems to me if your house is destroyed in a category 5 hurricane, you're not going to have a lot of time filling out refugee paperwork.
Give the Haitians a break, and hope they get the help they need in Mexico, since Trump, had completely cut off any Haitians coming to America, because
it conflicts with his goal, of "Making America white again."
The Haitians complain that the Clintons forced them to accept a certain singing star living in Miami to become their president. And it's true. They
did. Michel Joseph Martelly was the President of Haiti from May 2011 until February 2016.
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Hurricane Matthew was an extremely destructive and long-lived tropical cyclone which became the first Category 5 Atlantic hurricane since Hurricane
Felix in 2007. The thirteenth named storm, fifth hurricane and second major hurricane of the active 2016 Atlantic hurricane season, Matthew wrought
widespread destruction and catastrophic loss of life during its journey across the Western Atlantic, including parts of Haiti, Cuba, Dominican
Republic, the Lucayan Archipelago, the southeastern United States, and the Canadian Maritimes. Over 1,600 estimated deaths have been attributed to the
storm, including 546 to 1,600 in Haiti, 1 in Colombia, 4 in the Dominican Republic, 4 in Cuba, 1 in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and 49 in the
United States, making it the deadliest Atlantic hurricane since Hurricane Stan in 2005, which killed more than 1,600 in Central America and Mexico.
With the storm causing damages estimated in excess of $15 billion (USD), it was also the costliest Atlantic hurricane since Hurricane Sandy in 2012,
as well as the ninth costliest Atlantic hurricane in history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Matthew
Of course also about that time Nepal was kind enough to send Cholera to the island. The ongoing Haiti cholera outbreak is the worst epidemic of
cholera in recent history, according .... That panel's report, issued in May 2011, confirmed substantial evidence that the Nepalese troops had brought
the disease to Haiti.
Lastly, the US while Obama was still president decided to stop allowing Haitians into the country. They can't go to the USA. They won't go to Haiti,
so Mexico would be the only and bestest choice, no? Except a few of them have AIDS.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | I have gotten some bizarre questions when returning to the U.S., as well.
Isn't it nice to know we have a government interested in our safety instead of being politically correct, for a change? Maybe fewer of us will get
killed now?
That list of countries was created by the Obama administration... and Jamaica wasn't on it. That means Ali's son may have been acting smug being a
celebrity's son or had some other issue that caused the extra questioning.
If you have nothing to hide, then get done with the questions. Don't look for a Fake news reporter to whine to because an official asked you
questions.
Have your passport in hand when you first come to the border agent and take off your dark glasses!
I actually had to tell this to a Baja Nomad friend when he complained of being treated 'special' at the border, a few years ago.
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David K wrote: " That means Ali's son may have been acting smug being a celebrity's son or had some other issue that caused the extra
questioning."
I see perhaps Ali's son was acting uppity and that may have caused the Jackbooted thugs at the CBP to start giving him the 3rd degree on his religious
preferences, and the fact he admitted he was Muslim, had nothing to do with the fact that Ali, a US citizen born in the US, was questioned and
detained for over two hours.
One wonders if the CBP can even ask questions about your personal beliefs, and religious preferences. I know for a fact, they can't discriminate
against an American, because of their religious beliefs.
I'm not going to sound like one of those Keyboard commandos who claims they stand up to corrupt Mexican cops, and CBP agents who want to search your
phone, because you really don't know what they will do if they come face to face with a Mexican cop, American cop, and FED like a CBP agent
possibility abusing his authority.
I usually have a smart mouth towards regular cops if they stop me for no good reason, but I'm more careful with the FEDs, because there is no
transparency with them. If you notice those that file lawsuits, and complaints against the border patrol, you rarely if ever hear about the outcome of
those complaints.
But one way to handle a CBP agent asking about your personal religion, is to answer the questions that will help the agent determine that you're a US
Citizen, but once they start asking about your personal beliefs, is to tell him you're a US citizen, and you can't be denied entry into the US, and
therefore, you don't have to answer questions about your personal religious views, and if the CBP agent insists, ask to speak to a supervisor.
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