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Gulliver
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What I have found to be productive is to contact your local fire and medic organization and arrange for them to set aside supplies from their kits
that have timed out for any of several reasons. I'm not talking about controlled substances at all. More like braces and bandages and such. I've even
been given relatively sophisticated things like blood pressure measuring apparatus.
Each Fall when I migrate South I try to bring along a box of these sort of things and drop them off at El Rosario.
But as much as anything, donations mean a lot. Even $20 a year from each of us can make a big difference to having emergency service along this very
empty section of country.
Maybe do it now.
https://www.facebook.com/HalconesdelDesierto/app/41567570182...
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David K
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In the U.S., hospitals and other health care throw away everything that has an expiration date... including bandages and other first aid. They are
probably still perfectly good and could really help rescue centers in Mexico, like the Desert Hawks of El Rosario. If you are associated with a
doctor's office, clinic or hospital, maybe ask if you can have the soon to be thrown away supplies for donation to Mexico.
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chuckie
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I find it amusing that people like DK keep saying that x-y-z place is more dangerous than Baja..So What? Those Rose colored glasses again....
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Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  | | I find it amusing that people like DK keep saying that x-y-z place is more dangerous than Baja..So What? Those Rose colored glasses again....
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Exactly. If you are the family of the guy murdered in La Paz, or the 73 year old expat lady in todos Santos, or the lady in Rosarito you could
care less about crime in the USA.
Although Antonio gave an excellent rundown (at the risk of tarnishing the towns name)...man there are a lot of unanswered questions. A shotgun blast
to the head but it did not get anyone else? Maybe. Where was the third cop (unseen) when the tourist picked up the second cop and took him to the
clinic? ETC... We may never know. The entire San Quintin Valley and El Rosario are going through a hard period.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | I find it amusing that people like DK keep saying that x-y-z place is more dangerous than Baja..So What? Those Rose colored glasses again....
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Here is a comparison of crime statistics for Mexico and USA:
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/Unit...
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David K
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What does the number 73 mean?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | I find it amusing that people like DK keep saying that x-y-z place is more dangerous than Baja..So What? Those Rose colored glasses again....
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Exactly. If you are the family of the guy murdered in La Paz, or the 73 year old expat lady in todos Santos, or the lady in Rosarito you could
care less about crime in the USA.
Although Antonio gave an excellent rundown (at the risk of tarnishing the towns name)...man there are a lot of unanswered questions. A shotgun blast
to the head but it did not get anyone else? Maybe. Where was the third cop (unseen) when the tourist picked up the second cop and took him to the
clinic? ETC... We may never know. The entire San Quintin Valley and El Rosario are going through a hard period. |
It is apparent that there is an increased cartel presence in many parts of Baja, leading to the recent reports of violence among cartels and between
cartels and police.
The question I am pondering, how much of the cartel activity is to control drug distribution to locals in Mexico, and how much of the cartel activity
is associated with drug transport to USA market...
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rts551
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If I am in Mexico, I really do not care about the statistics in the USA. I am most concerned about what is over my shoulder.
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mtgoat666
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73 means 73
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by rts551 | | Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | I find it amusing that people like DK keep saying that x-y-z place is more dangerous than Baja..So What? Those Rose colored glasses again....
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Exactly. If you are the family of the guy murdered in La Paz, or the 73 year old expat lady in todos Santos, or the lady in Rosarito you could
care less about crime in the USA.
Although Antonio gave an excellent rundown (at the risk of tarnishing the towns name)...man there are a lot of unanswered questions. A shotgun blast
to the head but it did not get anyone else? Maybe. Where was the third cop (unseen) when the tourist picked up the second cop and took him to the
clinic? ETC... We may never know. The entire San Quintin Valley and El Rosario are going through a hard period. |
It is apparent that there is an increased cartel presence in many parts of Baja, leading to the recent reports of violence among cartels and between
cartels and police.
The question I am pondering, how much of the cartel activity is to control drug distribution to locals in Mexico, and how much of the cartel activity
is associated with drug transport to USA market... |
If you are worried about cartel violence it does not matter.
If you are worried about Tweeker crime then look at how many drug busts there are in Baja, not who is selling it.
Drug use among locals in Mexico is skyrocketing. Side by sie in the news are the drug busts right along with the shootings.
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Gulliver
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That's an interesting link.
I find that perceptions often rule feelings. As an example, my step daughter had her ratty old Civic stolen in Seattle. It showed up a day later
imbedded in the side of a house with bullet holes and blood all over the place. It didn't even make the papers.
Back in the early nineties I was hanging out in La Paz a lot and there was a total buzz about a crime wave. It seems that an indian woman from the
mainland with three kids had a slick shoplifting operation going where one or two of them would create a disturbance while the others filled their
pockets. You would have thought that the sky was falling.
There is more of this petty crime in my old home town, Olympia, WA, every day than happens in La Paz.
I'm not discounting the seriousness of the murder rate in Mexico but I have seen no evidence that tells me that it is anything but cartel v.s. cartel
shootings being done by young males.
If you want to have any serious effect on this problem, stop smoking dope. Yeah it should be legalized. The laws on this junk are beyond stupid. But
it doesn't have to be you who contributes to the mess. If you REALLY need your joint then you should think about a twelve step program.
[Edited on 4-2-2017 by Gulliver]
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Gulliver, joints are SOOO 1990's. nowadays the kids RIP A BONG HIT and the effect is the same. the buds these days are incredible.
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chuckie
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I wonder if DK is planning on coming to Kansas on Vacation? Else why would he be worried about Tornadoes? Such convoluted logic!
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rts551
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Gulliver. This ain't Kansas. Things have changed a lot in BCS during the last 20 years. Its not just cartel against cartel, although that is bad
enough. Take glance through the BCS news.
And I really don't care about tornadoes. We have very few in BCS which is where I live most of the year.
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/policiaca/
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Gulliver
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I'll check in later tonight when the children have been tucked in for the night (grin).
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There are hints in the Mexican coverage (en español) of this story that the killed officer was corrupt. But the newspapers and reporters have to be
careful or they might be targeted. We will probably never know. To me it looks like a narco-assassination.
My experience is that innocent people are rarely targeted, but can be "collateral damage," for example, in a restaurant or on a crowded street. Some
good advice above about staying clear of anything having to do with the illegal drug business. That's the advice I give to friends who have some
concern about going to Baja.
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David K
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At second 15...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9byEDwilVc
Here at the very start... future Nomads? LOL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtdrKIdDgE
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blackwolfmt
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Boy I miss them days
So understand dont waste your time always searching for those wasted years
face up and make your stand and realize that your living in the golden years
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mtgoat666
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I got no idea where you read the number. But you seem to be OCD about it, so why don't you present the number in context so we can help you with your
puzzle?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch |
Jajaja, who buys Mexican weed north of the border anymore.... cartels have evolved far beyond that, now.
Besides, I thought all the cool kids vaped, now. |
Here in California it's legal to grow up to 6 plants at home now, so no longer a reason to buy if that's your thing.
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