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why is everyone doing the same over and over again?
here is a forgotten one for you:
south end 29°37'19.85"N, 114°19'24.27"W
north end 29°37'33.85"N, 114°19'16.28"W
that's how far I drove with an average 4x4
a bike could easily do the connection
4x4's would have to be dedicated rock crawlers
but it seems they prefer to drive to Mike's and talk adventure
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MORE BEER? And of course, most of them would rather talk! "Man, those tires look good on my truck!"
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Harald, I always wondered why the Mexican road builders around 1959 went south into a dead-end canyon or didn't make the road on through there? On
the 1962 edition Lower California Guidebook (Howard Gulick) map:
What about the well-defined trail/road that is up on the side of the ridge, above your south waypoint?
29° 37.084'N, 114° 19.167'W
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4x4abc
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that is why I started searching, David.
Why would a straight line road end abruptly?
User tracks continue south from there
the track in the south is a dozer track, probably built around 1959
farther south from there it is mostly washed away, but the ground is easy for driving
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maybe the road builders wanted to run through Las Arrastras?
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Here is Gulick's 1956 map, researched before Grosso created the first track north to the sulfur mine (where the road south from San Felipe ended).
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Here is the unpublished Gulick sketch map made in 1960...
The straight lines show bulldozed new roads.
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Just drove the straight line road from the south. It is good condition. At the north end one has to jog to the west to near the highway due to the
fencing for the airstrip. The road is wide like it was made with a grader as opposed to a dozer. The road has quite a few curves as it works its way
thru various gullies. It is obvious the intent was for a 2 lane road.
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short glimpse into the road versions around Gonzaga
Attachment: road versions.kmz (21kB)
This file has been downloaded 275 times
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We rode bikes up the Pioneer Mine "Road" thats about a mile east of that area last weekend, would need a capable 4x4 to say the least.
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Looks like a good jeep or SXS run, not so much fun on a moto.
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Fun if you like being a human pingpong or pinball.
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No blood dripping off anyone. Looks tough. How much of it is like that?
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About 5 miles of it is pretty bad, although no huge vert faces everything is fairly rounded and locked down. Just have to keep up speed, commit while
not ripping off pegs/rotors, and stay loose as you get knocked around. The biggest issue for a couple of our guys was not the bike skills it was the
cardio!
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That trail is awesome on moto!!! We rode it few weeks ago. A good dirt bike and good rider can carry speed across those rocks. The key is to carry
enough speed you stay on top of them. It's one of those situations that it looks like going slower is easier, but it's the opposite. The faster you
can go the smoother.
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Quote: Originally posted by dirtbikejunkie  | | That trail is awesome on moto!!! We rode it few weeks ago. A good dirt bike and good rider can carry speed across those rocks. The key is to carry
enough speed you stay on top of them. It's one of those situations that it looks like going slower is easier, but it's the opposite. The faster you
can go the smoother. |
you must be an excellent rider. please post a video of you riding that "at speed"
i am sure to learn something about motorbike riding.
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bust out the Sherco!
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | Quote: Originally posted by dirtbikejunkie | | That trail is awesome on moto!!! We rode it few weeks ago. A good dirt bike and good rider can carry speed across those rocks. The key is to carry
enough speed you stay on top of them. It's one of those situations that it looks like going slower is easier, but it's the opposite. The faster you
can go the smoother. |
you must be an excellent rider. please post a video of you riding that "at speed"
i am sure to learn something about motorbike riding. |
sorry no vid. And I should have worded that differently... I am not trying to put anyone down or anything. I have the benefit of having practiced a
lot on pro level endurocross track, so it's second nature now. But I recognize that isn't true for everyone.
I was just wanting to say that these types of trails are awesome on bikes if that is what you like! Probably not everyone's cup of tea but definitely
mine.
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ehall
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| Quote: Originally posted by dirtbikejunkie | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | Quote: Originally posted by dirtbikejunkie | | That trail is awesome on moto!!! We rode it few weeks ago. A good dirt bike and good rider can carry speed across those rocks. The key is to carry
enough speed you stay on top of them. It's one of those situations that it looks like going slower is easier, but it's the opposite. The faster you
can go the smoother. |
you must be an excellent rider. please post a video of you riding that "at speed"
i am sure to learn something about motorbike riding. |
sorry no vid. And I should have worded that differently... I am not trying to put anyone down or anything. I have the benefit of having practiced a
lot on pro level endurocross track, so it's second nature now. But I recognize that isn't true for everyone.
I was just wanting to say that these types of trails are awesome on bikes if that is what you like! Probably not everyone's cup of tea but definitely
mine. |
I would have to go slower and try not to kill myself. I ride with guys that would fly down that road. Some are even older thanI am. Looks fun.
[Edited on 3-9-2020 by ehall]
[Edited on 3-9-2020 by ehall]
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