ChronicBraaper
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300 2 stroke - 450-500 - 690 - big bike
Hello All,
Got an old-school big-bore RFS KTM. The thing is a tractor.
But I have been thinking I don't want to get stranded out in the middle of now where in BAJA which is where i would like to start riding..what should
i get. Should I get one of these new 300 two strokes...Which i love the idea but which one...or should i get a 450-500..or should i get an Adventure
bike. Right now i like to go hard and crash...planning to kill myself on my future badass bike if i could afford it. Til then i will ride my KTM into
the ground...
But what is it..if you had 10k to spend what would you get?
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pacificobob
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I would choose a dual sport in the neighborhood of 300lbs.....if you are not carrying too much gear.
XR400, DRZ400 , or one of many similar motorbikes.
You will have less fun on a larger moto. IMO
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mtgoat666
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Good luck with that!
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  | I would choose a dual sport in the neighborhood of 300lbs.....if you are not carrying too much gear.
XR400, DRZ400 , or one of many similar motorbikes.
You will have less fun on a larger moto. IMO |
I work on a lot of DRZ400s. If it has the vacuum petc-ck, replace it with a standard type. I've seen several that have crankcases filled with
gasoline as the vacuum part failed, letting gas bypass right into the carb through the vacuum line and drain into the case. Also check to make sure
front sprocket is secure, my buddy had one shear off the end of the mainshaft, I presume from being loose.
Other than than, very well made bikes.
John
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JZ
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I have a two stroke KTM 250. Fantastic for trail riding. Beat's my kid's 4-stroke KTM 250 racing down the beach. Not so much for the road or
touring all of Baja. We typically keep a ride under 150 miles.
If you are doing more highway, a 300 is likely going to be too small also. The KTM 300 two strokes are badass for trails though.
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ztrab
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Just back from 1200 miles in Baja - 9 days on my Husky 501 FE. I have ridden many times and many different bikes. The late model 300 two stokes are
great but have distance and fuel requirements that in my personal opinion don't make it a good choice unless you are supported and/or doing day riding
out of a single location.
The beauty of the EFI long stroke 500 is fuel mileage, low end power and ability to slab it when necessary. The 500 is light enough to do the single
tracks, carry small saddle bags and a top bag if you are unsupported and very durable. With a 4.1 gal tank, I am comfortable with a 180 range and can
squeeze 200 plus if I am easy on the throttle. Just my personal opinion but I have logged somewhere south of 20K on the peninsula.
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What rfs bike you riding now? I have logged thousands of baja miles on my 450 and 525 rfs machines. About as bulletproof as you can get has been my
experience.
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pacificobob
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | I would choose a dual sport in the neighborhood of 300lbs.....if you are not carrying too much gear.
XR400, DRZ400 , or one of many similar motorbikes.
You will have less fun on a larger moto. IMO |
I work on a lot of DRZ400s. If it has the vacuum petc-ck, replace it with a standard type. I've seen several that have crankcases filled with
gasoline as the vacuum part failed, letting gas bypass right into the carb through the vacuum line and drain into the case. Also check to make sure
front sprocket is secure, my buddy had one shear off the end of the mainshaft, I presume from being loose.
Other than than, very well made bikes.
John |
The Petco-k was the first. Mod I did on mine. I have punished my DRZ all over 6 Mexican states...it has never had a failure of any type.
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MulegeAL
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Started riding Honda XR600 down here in 1997.
Still riding it here. Is old skool for sure, but tough as nails. Has trophied in a couple local events over the years, and has always brought me
back. Kick start simple, enough range with a bigger tank, runs on Magna green gas fine. Something like 40/50 K miles on it, still runs fine, only
failures was ignitor (lasted 23 years) and kickstart return spring (20 years). May need a clutch rebuild this summer.
Build one up with $5k and have $5k to spend down here!
The thread advice above is good on KTMs, I have 2 of those up north.
There are no parts for KTM in baja, in my experience.
Still some great tough rides here in central baja.
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I haven'r owned a bike since the eighty's, so I don't have any advice about your ride, but you should buy a green one!
I don't know what the science behind "going green" is, but it is supposed to be better for the planet!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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advrider
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Love, love, love my 2014 KTM 500 EXCF, many Baja trips on it without a problem. I'm at about 6K miles and the valves haven't needed adjustment yet.
Two riders on the adventure forum have or are riding around the world on them.
I've had all of the above bikes at one time and none compared to the 500. Parts aren't cheap but they don't break often if you take care of them.
The highway would suck on a two smoker and range is an issue. Smiles per mile is high but it's a tradeoff. You can pick up a clean 13-14-15 for
around 7k if your quick.
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basautter
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I have had both a KTM XCW-300 2-2troke and an EXC-450 4-srroke, which I have ridden quite a bit in Baja. The biggest issue with the 300 is range.
Even with a big tank, it's hard to safely get much more than 100 miles of range, not to mention carrying 2-strike oil. It is more fun on tight,
twisty trails such as Window Rock, but less comfortable on everything else. Bottom line, it depends on what kind of riding you want to do, and if you
have a chase vehicle you can hook up with every 75 miles or so. Gas stations can be pretty spread out, so keep that in mind. You can have lots of
fun with either. Have fun!
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bajatrailrider
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Two strokes not hot tip in Baja unless short local rides . Good 450/500 but not on tight single track .
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pacificobob
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I agree. Tractor-like torque at low rpm makes the difference.
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bajatrailrider
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The new 300 two stroke amazing no vibration no mix oil estart 6th gear over drive. Super bottom end draw backs long distance not comfy like 4stroke
poor mpg carry oil. Too tall Too long wheel base for the foot trails we ride. Takes young guy to ride it we are all over 60. So we had to build our
own custom bikes that do everything. Most of the guys in our dirt bike gang. Still ride KTM and Husky 500s witch work well for them on dirt roads. On
hard single track they do lots of pushing the bike. Would be better off with second bike 250cc.
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advrider
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I just might add a 300 to the fleet but it will only do Baja when I have a chase truck. They are amazing woods bikes and eat up the single track but
making a run the length of the peninsula would not be fun!
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mcnut
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Just take the RFS if it is sound, perfect for Baja as long as it is not the 250. 15k miles (many in Baja) on my 525 w/o a problem.
Bruce
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bajatrailrider
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riding in Baja and not living here 450/500 best. Living here trail lover need big bore and 250.
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