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And it's true I was raised in a rural supportive environment and my personal views are tainted by that experience. I recently did a trip through upper
Montana and noted every time i pulled over to the side of the road to take a break, at least the third vehicle by would stop to ask if I needed help
or directions. These people represented to me those " uneducated Rednecks" the privileged elite like to disparage. I would not want to compare that
lifestyle with what exists today in the more populated economically advantaged areas in the US. So people will naturally search for more accepting
areas to live in, not necessarily fleeing what is less so.
This pretty much sums up why we were drawn to Baja as we noted the locals exhibited much the same priorities.
[Edited on 6-15-2022 by JDCanuck]
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | JC43 (and Others!
Republics, the US is a Republic, are messy no two ways about it! If trains running on time are your thing and executions by organ transplant don't
bother you the PRC is your kind of place!
[Edited on 6-14-2022 by RFClark] |
Somehow correct / but only somehow. If the development continues like right now, CA will be renamed in the future as "Peoples Lepublic of China,
distlict of Notel Amelican" 
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Canuckie:
While the rules sound annoying, they sound minor relative to appropriate causes to uproot and move to an undeveloped region like baja.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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| Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | JC43 (and Others!
Republics, the US is a Republic, are messy no two ways about it! If trains running on time are your thing and executions by organ transplant don't
bother you the PRC is your kind of place!
[Edited on 6-14-2022 by RFClark] |
Somehow correct / but only somehow. If the development continues like right now, CA will be renamed in the future as "Peoples Lepublic of China,
distlict of Notel Amelican" |
Uh, oh, now you have resorted to racist mocking of foreign languages… not good.
I am more impressed with Chinese that learn a second language like English. Perhaps you should learn to speak and read mandarin or Cantonese before
you mock Chinese people that speak English as a second language.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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I highly encourage people to leave SoCal. Please. Go. Adios.
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And then there is the County.....
In Nevada county they have gone overboard with restrictions and requirements for what you can build on your own property. I have long dreamed of
building a modest house on the property my grandfather bought before I was born, but it looks like I would be spending 30 to 50K before I would be
able to break ground.
Setting up a place to park an RV for occasional use is illegal unless you have already gone through the extremely expensive process of securing a
building permit, for a much more complicated structure than you need, or want!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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JDCanuck
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Same happening here Akgringo. It's illegal to allow a homeless person to occupy an RV on your 2 acre rural property, but it's increasingly common to
ignore and despise the shopping cart people sleeping in alleys and under bridges downtown.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | | If the development continues like right now, CA will be renamed in the future as "Peoples Lepublic of China, distlict of Notel Amelican" |
Prime example of what is wrong with the US. You find your own racism hilariously funny.
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Yes, but in jc43’s case it’s someone who doesn't do well in English mocking others who have problems with English.
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Goat,
All journeys start with the same 1st step. Baja’s no harder than anywher else to move to!
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Am I the only one who sees a heart in the people of Baja that somehow has been lost in our own culture as we became more and more economically
advantaged? We are not "fleeing" our culture but embracing one we admire.
When my wife was struggling with a walker in Baja, streetside vendors would quickly provide their seats so she could take a break, give up their seats
on public transportation, or help her cross the roads. I was struck by how many would prompt their children to stand on the transports so us
"seniors"could sit and be more comfortable. I watch them treat their own seniors with the same respect and honour them as well.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | | Yes, but in jc43’s case it’s someone who doesn't do well in English mocking others who have problems with English. |
I am not mocking Chinese people who cannot pronaunce the "R". That is kinda nature of the Chinese. Asmuch as the French people cannot pronaounce the
"H". But as you are badmouthing me this is my question to you: Can you speak French perfectly? Without accent?? Or German? Or Chinese? This is what
the world knows about languages: If you speak 3 languages you are either from Israel or Germany or another highly edjucated country. If you speak
two langueges you are from Africa, Asia or Northern Europe. If you speak only one language, you are for certain a Gringo. 
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Over the last couple of decades I have had the opportunity to meet and talk with lots and lots of gringos moving south into Mexico and their reasons
used to be mostly getting away from the crowds and traffic as well as seeking a slower pace of life with affordable access to the sea.
That has been changing and it seems like over the last 4 or 5 years, the one reason I hear most now is that they are tired of all the political
fighting going on that has divided them from their close friends and even their own families. They just don't want to listen to that any more and I
would say they were probably fairly evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats.
I am tired of it too and probably the single reason I don't spend much time here anymore. Looking at the stats, it appears that I am not alone...
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Am I the only one who sees a heart in the people of Baja that somehow has been lost in our own culture as we became more and more economically
advantaged? We are not "fleeing" our culture but embracing one we admire.
When my wife was struggling with a walker in Baja, streetside vendors would quickly provide their seats so she could take a break, give up their seats
on public transportation, or help her cross the roads. I was struck by how many would prompt their children to stand on the transports so us
"seniors"could sit and be more comfortable. I watch them treat their own seniors with the same respect and honour them as well.
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Very true. Many here are the most humble, caring ( as you see them with family) and truly honest people around. Granted there exceptions as we all
know.
What frightens me is, the present culture of “gringos“ moving here with their attitudes, and frankly MAGAot, beliefs. I have seen it over the past
20 years of living her full time and married to a “patrona“. Gringo attitudes have went from decent to super annoying.
The culture of Trumpism is defiantly starting to show its ugly face down here, and I am constantly questioned if I am a Trump “supporter“, as from
where I sit, it is a question asked with eyes on me.
To all considering moving down here, it is awesome! I wouldn't change a thing. Just PLEASE leave the “D“umster, and all the attitudes that come
with being a MAGAot at the door when you cross.
We, as people are no better, or worse as humans than Mexican people. Just don't try and change who they are to be like you.
Favorite quote from Gringos that I constantly hear... “why don't they learn to speak English?
Really
[Edited on 6-15-2022 by charliemanson]
[Edited on 6-16-2022 by BajaNomad]
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RFClark
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CJ43,
My experience in France is that people there don’t think the french who live down the road 50KM speak French! The thing they all agree on is that
what ever they speak in Quebec isn’t French at all!
Personally I speak American English plus several technical sub-sets that might be considered separate languages by those who don’t understand them.
I also speak reasonable Mexican Spanish and when I was in a different line of work long ago fair Russian. I speak all of them, including English with
an accent!
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| Quote: Originally posted by JC43 | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | | Yes, but in jc43’s case it’s someone who doesn't do well in English mocking others who have problems with English. |
I am not mocking Chinese people who cannot pronaunce the "R". That is kinda nature of the Chinese. |
Making fun of the the pronunciation of a non-native English speaker is exactly the definition of mocking them.
Claiming you aren't racist means nothing when your words prove otherwise and you don't care about offending the people you are mocking.
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How did you get from people leaving Calif ? to this Baja Blow hard at there best. 
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca | We saw that program on TV, shocking how many are leaving but in San Diego, you cannot rent a studio for less than $1500+ and its only 450 sq feet of
space. Prices for groceries, over the top expensive. I am very glad I don't have little kids and live there.
We moved to Turkiye this year after 16 years in BCS, as most of you are aware. So many ex-pats are moving here and buying that the gvt has decided to
limit the # of foreigners in any given area to 25%. No more resident permits will be given over that percentage.
Very few American and thousands of Brits, as well as Scandinavians with the latest influx being Russians and Ukranians. We are in the smallish city
of Alanya and there are 10,000 ex-pats in our social media group. What a change from La Bocana where we were total foreigners and nowadays number
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Interesting post to say the least. Is there any country in the world I know less about and am more interested in learning more about than Turkey? Have
you yet traveled to Istanbul? Looking forward to more reports on what you learn there as you delve into the history and waves of cyclical civilization
as it developed there.
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I admire Turkey’s leader Recep Erdogan. He doesn’t take any guff from the US and goes his own way in the best interests of his country. Turkey is
a very interesting part of the world.
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