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 It's cold in those mountains this time of year.  Cameras are best handled with a steady hand.  Not a shivering hand.
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 | Quote: Originally posted by verichip  |  | It's cold in those mountains this time of year.  Cameras are best handled with a steady hand.  Not a shivering hand. | 
 
 If you are doing photography of night sky, a tripod is what you need.  You won’t get much usable handheld.
   
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by David K  |  | We camp a bit south of San Felipe and the glow from Puerto Peñasco, across the gulf, is low on the horrizon. Does not deminish star and satellite
viewing on moonless nights! It is incredibly dark on those nights in the Baja desert and mountains.
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 If doing night sky photos, that city glow will often spoil your photos if you include the lower quadrant of the sky in the direction of the town.
 The city/town glow is not as noticeable if you are just star gazing with binos or naked eye.
 
 
 
 
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 No need to photo stars near the horizon. The atmosphere is thicker so less clarity. Just wait for the Earth to rotate a couple more hours.
 
 
 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by David K  |  | No need to photo stars near the horizon. The atmosphere is thicker so less clarity. Just wait for the Earth to rotate a couple more hours. | 
 
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 The light's from Ojos Negros obscure the stars from 20 kilometers south and the other side of the hill.  You want the north star in your photos.
 https://youtu.be/_kC1nKlIPU0
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 The Dark Sky Map is one of my favorite websites.   For fun, look up south Korea, the look at North Korea - that poor country is so lacking any
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 | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  |  | | Quote: Originally posted by verichip  |  | It's cold in those mountains this time of year.  Cameras are best handled with a steady hand.  Not a shivering hand. | 
 
 If you are doing photography of night sky, a tripod is what you need.  You won’t get much usable handheld.
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 The exposure time for night photography is around 30 seconds on a wide open aperture.  A tripod and a remote shutter cable is a must as is a lens that
will open to F2.8.
 
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 This is another  helpful site for night photography since you do not want to shoot stars/Milky Way after the moon rises.
 
 https://www.sunrisesunset.com
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 December 2022
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 Rokinon 14mm F2.8 Full Frame Ultra Wide Angle
 Is a good choice for star shots
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 I was wondering about that. It looks noticeably closer right now.
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 Another tip:  The reason you need a f2.8 aperture or bigger is that the earth rotates: 30 seconds is about the max shutter exposure time before you
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 Another 800 tips
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 | Quote: Originally posted by boe4fun  |  | The Vizcaino desert, as long as you’re away from ambient light sources, ie Bahía Tortugas - Bahía Asunción. | 
 
 the Vizcaino desert has a lot of light pollution from Guerrero Negro
 
 
 
 
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 you don't have to have the north star in your pictures
 but it is a cool focussing point
 
 image was taken in the High Sierras near Tahoe
 about 1990
 notice the light pollution from Reno
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 in the old analog photo days I often set the camera on a tripod, opened the shutter and went to bed
 at whatever time I woke up during the night, I would then close the shutter
 the image above indicates an open shutter for about 2.5 hours (24 hours in a full circle)
 
 image below was taken in Death Valley 1986
 Saline Valley hot springs
 probably a 200mm lens
 
 notice the shooting star in the lower right corner!
 
 on most digital cameras you can no longer leave the shutter open for hours
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
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 Welcome to the modern world.
 "One of the more creative and expressive techniques that digital photography excels at is the multiple exposure. Back in the days of film it was much
more difficult to pull off a successful double or multiple exposure. But digital has opened up so much in terms of creative options and the Z series
mirrorless cameras have expanded those options even further."
 "Using the Multiple Exposure Mode
 You can record from two to 10 exposures as a single image.
 
 To shoot multiple exposure images, you have to select the Multiple Exposure Mode which can be found in the shooting menu. Choose On (series) which
lets you shoot until you turn it Off or On (single photo) that takes one multiple exposure. You also have to select the number of shots you’re
planning on taking and the Overlay Mode."
 
 "Multiple Exposures with Z Mirrorless Cameras | Nikon" https://www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/tips-and-tec...
 So, if I use the bulb setting and take ten 900 second shots and the camera combines them into one photo, do I have a 2 1/2 hour shot?  If the camera
automatically takes 100 thirty second shots and I combined them on a computer would I get good star trails?  Welcome to the modern world
 
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