| dusty.rambler 
 
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| Discover Baja Travel Club? 
 
 I saw this club recommended on David's website.  I'm wondering if others have joined and is it worth it?  I'm going to Baja for 2 weeks and I wanted
to know if I will save money on 2 weeks of auto insurance after the $39 fee.
 
 Any other experiences or feedback is greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
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| David K 
 
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 You can get a quote from Discover Baja on their website, then compare to Baja Bound or other's online quotes. The difference is Baja Bound does not
require any membership. They both sell the same, highest rated, insurance brands... last I checked (HDI Seguros & Chubb). The club membership gets
you discounts at hotels and other Baja businesses.
 
 Personally, I have purchased policies from both, over the past 25 years. Baja Bound was the first company to sell online, back in the 1990s. The
others followed that lead. I have also written articles for both but far more for Baja Bound's free monthly bulletin, the past 10 years.
 
 The agents/brokers at both are great and both have bilingual agents that will go to bat for you if there are any disputes.
 
 
 
 
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| dusty.rambler 
 
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 Thanks David.  I have always used Baja Bound also.
 
 But Discover says that they have special insurance rates for members.... You can get insurance through them without the membership, but a discount
with the membership.  This is what I'm wondering will be worth the membership cost.
 
 They also claim to be "the only source in the U.S. for pre-paid FMM tourist permits."  I'm not exactly sure what this means..... do I still pay the
fee?  Do I have to stop at the border to pick them up, or are they mailed?
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| David K 
 
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 DO NOT get the FMM before you enter Mexico, is my advice.
 
 WHY?
 
 Good chance you will need to pay twice, if there is any descrepancy on the day you cross, the border site you cross at, or if you don't have the
receipt with the FMM form, etc.
 
 YOU STILL HAVE TO STOP at the border and walk into the building to have INM validate the form, with their stamp. The same place you get one at.
 
 Is saving 5-10 minutes to fill out the form and pay for it, worth the chance you will need to pay another $34 or so dollars? It's Mexico, take off you
watch and relax, you're on a vacation, after all!
 
 
 
 
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| dusty.rambler 
 
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 Great advice David!  I can totally see that happening.
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| TMW 
 
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 I've gotten the FMM thru Discover Baja several times and never had to pay twice.
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 I do as David suggested, in fact the last time we went through Mexicalli the folks in front of us in line had to pay twice since they didnt have a
receipt. It was a few days before Christmas.
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| David K 
 
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 Then you used the border pre-selected on the day pre-selected, and you had the payment receipt.
 
 My concern is for someone who, for whatever reason, is not able to.
 
 Now, you and I got our 2022 FMMs together. How long did that take, would you say? I think it was easily less than 10 minutes. Did you stop with a
pre-paid FMM to get it stamped? How long did that take compared to last March?
 
 
 
 
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| sancho 
 
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 Never saw the benefit of a Travel Club. The 2 San Diego
 based Mex Ins brokers, Discover Baja and bajabound
 use the same Mex Ins. Co's., Chubb and HDI, both rated
 highly, whoever does that rating. Add the membership
 cost, as I remember the cost of the 2 brokers is the same,
 plus or minus a few $. You have to compare the 2 with
 EXACTLY the same coverage. The increase cost is generally
 the liability coverage, a few policies have $50k, up to
 $500k, I'm usually in the $300k, which is probably overkill.
 As posted get the fmm from Mex Immigration at the border.
 not prepaid
 
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| TMW 
 
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 Yes I got it stamped and didn't pay extra. At Mexicali East I just stopped walked in and got it stamped. Same at Tecate. No going to a bank to pay.
The TJ crossing is the easiest. One time the officer at Tecate did take my money, I think the bank was closed.
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| Don Pisto 
 
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 thirty years ago we would use vagabundos for insurance, fishing license boat permit and news letter.....in this day and age I don't see the need for a
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| TMW 
 
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 As for auto insurance I just renewed my annual policy with Discover Baja for my Tacoma. I've never used BajaBound but I don't have any issue with
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| Alan 
 
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 I learned the benefit of a travel club for the one time I actually had to file a claim. Every time the
claims adjuster wasn't responsive to an inquiry in a timely manner, I simply cc'd Discover Baja and they contacted the insurance provider, and I
received a response the very next day. They sell so many policies for the insurance companies they obviously wield a great deal of clout.  Having them
in my corner was priceless and my claim was settled to the full limits of the policy in less than 30 days.| Quote: Originally posted by sancho  |  | Never saw the benefit of a Travel Club. The 2 San Diego based Mex Ins brokers, Discover Baja and bajabound
 use the same Mex Ins. Co's., Chubb and HDI, both rated
 highly, whoever does that rating. Add the membership
 cost, as I remember the cost of the 2 brokers is the same,
 plus or minus a few $. You have to compare the 2 with
 EXACTLY the same coverage. The increase cost is generally
 the liability coverage, a few policies have $50k, up to
 $500k, I'm usually in the $300k, which is probably overkill.
 As posted get the fmm from Mex Immigration at the border.
 not prepaid
 
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| David K 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by Alan  |  | I learned the benefit of a travel club for the one time I actually had to file a claim. Every time the
claims adjuster wasn't responsive to an inquiry in a timely manner, I simply cc'd Discover Baja and they contacted the insurance provider, and I
received a response the very next day. They sell so many policies for the insurance companies they obviously wield a great deal of clout.  Having them
in my corner was priceless and my claim was settled to the full limits of the policy in less than 30 days.| Quote: Originally posted by sancho  |  | Never saw the benefit of a Travel Club. The 2 San Diego based Mex Ins brokers, Discover Baja and bajabound
 use the same Mex Ins. Co's., Chubb and HDI, both rated
 highly, whoever does that rating. Add the membership
 cost, as I remember the cost of the 2 brokers is the same,
 plus or minus a few $. You have to compare the 2 with
 EXACTLY the same coverage. The increase cost is generally
 the liability coverage, a few policies have $50k, up to
 $500k, I'm usually in the $300k, which is probably overkill.
 As posted get the fmm from Mex Immigration at the border.
 not prepaid
 
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 The very same is true of the Baja Bound staff... just fyi.
 
 
 
 
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| sancho 
 
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 These Ins Brokers that sell Mex Policies, I don't know how
 much real clout they have with the Mex Ins Co's they
 represent. When push comes to shove, not convinced of
 their position in case of a dispute. I imagine the Ins Co's
 would have the final word. Geoff at bajabound, reports are
 he will go to bat for his clients. The guy travels the peninsula,
 I think I would like someone hands on, like them
 in case of un problema
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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| advrider 
 
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 Not me but a riding buddy totaled his new moto in Baja. Insured with Baja bound, full pay out no problem. He was in a solo wreck outside of BOLA, they
sent out an adjuster and paid out in a timely manner.
 I've talked to BB several times to cover some of the weird chit I drag to Baja and never had a problem.
 
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| David K 
 
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 I think it is worth noting that Baja Bound sponsors Baja Nomad... helping Doug pay the 'power bills' to keep Nomad on the Internet!
 Click on their banner ad at the top of the Nomad page... and Doug is rewarded.
 
 
 
 
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