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[*] posted on 10-4-2024 at 10:28 PM


Here are my proposed canyon names plotted on INEGI 50K and INEGI 250K. Click to open:



[Edited on 10-5-2024 by geoffff]




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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 04:52 PM


Geoffff,

Have you thought about adding the northern canyons of Cañón los Llanos and Cañón del Muerto? I have an image of the GPS track for hiking Cañón del Muerto if you want it.

I don't know about Torrentes or Agua Grande. Nor do I plan to get more familiar, due to a safety concern. Are you aware of the proposed PHES pipeline in 2018, several miles north of Tajo? The developers mapped a pipeline route from the desert floor to the plateau in what they called "Cañón Cascada". I'd never heard of that canyon name previously. It could be their invented name for the location. I have GPS coordinates and Google Earth images if you want them.

An ambitous hiker did a canyon north of Tajo, calling it Cañón El Comillo, presumably named for the nearby spire/summit, Bufa del Comillo del Diablo. He may have invented the name for the canyon. I have an image of his Google Earth track.
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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 05:25 PM


No, I had not heard about those other canyon names.

I am up for adding Cañón los Llanos and Cañón del Muerto if we think there is enough documentation of those names being used. GPS tracks would be great!

Thanks for the info on the PHES power pipeline. I just saw your posting on that topic.




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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 06:34 PM


geoffff,
I can confirm that you have Cañón Alamar in the correct place. The mouth of the canyon is at (edited to read): 32.008069 -115.707224
I just got off the phone with a rancher who runs cattle in the canyons.
He confirmed that the Dukes' ranches are at Alamar.

[Edited on 10-6-2024 by Maderita]
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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 06:45 PM


Great, thanks!!

But wait -- those coordinates are not where I put Alamar.

Your coordinates look like what I have labeled as Mora....(?)




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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 06:53 PM


geoffff,

Cañón del Muerto aka: Cañón de los Muertos is at
32.538996 -115.942979
That point is part way up the canyon, so that the road can be seen which leads to mines and a ranch.
Several ecotour groups have hiked the route, starting from the La Cuesta gasolinera or the military checkpoint next to it on highway 2D.
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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 06:54 PM


I see Cañon de los Muertos, thanks! And INEGI agrees.



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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 07:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
Great, thanks!!

But wait -- those coordinates are not where I put Alamar.

Your coordinates look like what I have labeled as Mora....(?)




[Edited on 10-6-2024 by geoffff]


Oops, I must be tired or read off of the wrong note pad. Cañón Alamar is at 32.008069 1115.707224 I belive that is Tito Dukes' ranch. I will correct/edit my post above.
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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 07:51 PM


Cañón los Llanos headwaters pass by Rancho Picachos, elevation 3,800", 3.5 air miles SE of La Rumorosa. 32.488210 -116.013788 A brief walk northeast along the arroyo will take you to a steep drop in the canyon. Scramble several minutes over huge boulders to reach the waterfalls (cascadas) below. We have a few 5th class routes in the canyon, and an aid route pictured below.

A few miles down canyon (not recommending that anyone hike that), the main canyon intersects with the old dirt road to La Rumorosa (the pre-1950s) route from Mexicali. The canyon arroyo intersects with highway 2D, to the west of the Cuesta gasolinera at
32.562349 -115.952558


"El Vaquero Galactico" A2 multipitch - Cañón de los Llanos, Sierra de Juárez
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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 08:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Maderita  

Oops, I must be tired or read off of the wrong note pad. Cañón Alamar is at 32.008069 1115.707224 I belive that is Tito Dukes' ranch. I will correct/edit my post above.


That looks right!

In 2019 I drove as far as the fence across the canyon just east of that rancho, and stopped there because I wasn't sure I was allowed to drive up the canyon.

I get shy about driving through active ranches.


fence at 32.0100, -115.6976


Aerial shot of Alamar, looking west. My Van is in the narrows, and the rancho is just beyond, to the right.

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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 08:57 PM



Tito Duke's Ranch




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[*] posted on 10-5-2024 at 09:41 PM


I clicked on this thread, cause I knew there would be good photos, considering the posters. Thanks.
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[*] posted on 10-7-2024 at 10:03 AM
PaulW big list of Canyons


I just added Geoffff's northern canyons to my list from the pole line south to Matomi.
I appreciate all his effort that I never got around to do.
My list got started by making trails to the south canyons and many of the trails are shown. I also added a bunch of landmarks I found interesting.

See the attached KML

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[*] posted on 10-7-2024 at 11:54 AM


Thanks for all that info, Paul!

Here is what I have at this point for the Laguna Salada area:


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[*] posted on 10-7-2024 at 01:11 PM


geoffff & PaulW,

Thanks for all of your effort on this project. Good job! I have just enough playing around with it to know how difficult it is to sort out the conflicting names, conflicting locations, and coordinates.
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[*] posted on 10-7-2024 at 04:04 PM


Thanks for the links to the old magazine articles!
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