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Lance S.
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Geoglyphs near BOLA
Geoglyphs near Las Animas
To understand the pair of geoglyphs at Las Animas it may help to look at them in conjunction with the pair at BOLA (Cerro Almacen). Both sets are on
an isolated hill near their bay.
They oppose each other in a few ways. The ones at Las Animas are positive geoglyphs while the ones at BOLA are negative. At Las Animas they are up
near the summit, the BOLA ones are at the base. One pair slopes down towards the north west while the other pair slope down towards the south east.
There may not be a lot recorded concerning Cochimi religion but there is enough to show strong links to people to the north of them including a pair
of creator gods.
The elder one is associated with things on the surface of the world. He is also associated with cremation and second cremation ( the image burning
ceremony.
The younger is associated with things below the surface of the world. He, naturally, is associated with burial and secondary burial.
In this context the pair of geoglyphs at Las Animas would be associated with the elder god and the BOLA ones with the younger.
If they are related to a mourning ceremony then the pair at Las Animas would have a stronger association with cremation the BOLA ones with burial.
[Edited on 12-31-2024 by Lance S.]
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For what it is worth, I drove into Las Animas a couple of days ago. The road has been re-routed several times due to storm activity, and no real
repairs have been done for years. Also, the brush really crowds the trail in a few places.
I was thinking about spending some time there, but there was a significant amount of campers already there. It was surprising to me because my last
trip in there was September of 2022, and it was deserted!
I had a fun ride in, and out, but I did get stuck in some soft sand right in front of all the campers. The guy who winched me out of the hole was
surprised to see a Honda Element at the end of the road!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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In both Kiliwa and Kumeyaay myth the first cremation is associated with a curse, sickness, what we would call natural causes. The first burial is
associated with death by physical damage inflicted on the body, a physical attack. This may explain why one method, burial or cremation, would be
chosen over the other.
A Jesuit author, don't remember which one, said that among the Cochimi burial was for the brave who die in battle. This is not inconsistent with
Kiliwa and Kumeyaay myth.
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Went there again in early 2024 and found what appears to be another hunting blind on the east side.
I also checked out some of the small hills due east of there and they show signs of habitation also.
I will probably have my drone with me on my upcoming trips in a few weeks and will fly it around to see what else is around there.
Found an old trail and other sites on the large hills to the west of there 2 years ago.
Makes me wonder where the source of fresh water is or was?
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do you have a lat/long for the BOLA site?
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Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy  | Went there again in early 2024 and found what appears to be another hunting blind on the east side.
I also checked out some of the small hills due east of there and they show signs of habitation also.
I will probably have my drone with me on my upcoming trips in a few weeks and will fly it around to see what else is around there.
Found an old trail and other sites on the large hills to the west of there 2 years ago.
Makes me wonder where the source of fresh water is or was? |
I was wondering about water as well, perhaps they knew where to dig seasonally. I think Ritter mentioned tinajas in his paper on Cerro Almacen.
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Fatboy
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".... tinajas in his paper on Cerro Almacen."
Any idea where? Would be fun to look for them.....
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Lance S.
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He doesn't say.
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got a link to that paper?
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https://drive.usercontent.google.com/u/0/uc?id=1hrapOZFn1iSf...
A PROPOSED EXAMPLE OF SACRED GEOGRAPHY AND SOCIOSPATIAL OCCUPATION IN PREHISTORIC CENTRAL BAJA CALIFORNIA
ERIC W. RITTER
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gracias!
so, no Tinajas at Cerro el Almacen
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