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Trippy spot on Google Earth
Look at different image dates.
Does it line up with any names on old maps?
30°06'41"N 114°46'32"W
[Edited on 6-16-2025 by Lance S.]
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Looks like a spring. Perhaps a small pool of water, but hard to tell as images are poor resolution.
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The crosshairs mark the spot on the right side of the images, and it is located in an arroyo, so I argue that we are looking at nothing more than a
shadow in a canyon. But only one way to find out ...
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Looks like a shadow on my end but not 100 percent sure of it.
Am looking at it on iphone.
[Edited on 6-16-2025 by Tioloco]
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Lance S.
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Here's a couple more
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If google images are showing true colors, then might be seeing some green vegetation, which usually indicates a source of shallow moisture that cattle
have invariably turned into a mud hole…
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There is a spot marked Ames on the Knight map a little north of Miramar. Looks like it says there is water. Maybe we can find Ronosa peak.
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Many arroyos have tinajas or springs. This is just north of the San Judas Onyx Mine we recently visited. Note 'onyx' on the map, lower right corner...
below 'Landing' ( future Okie Landing, but in 1930 was the Miramar Landing.
EDIT: got on my PC and using your GPS waypoint then placing that on the various maps (INEGI topo, Benchmark Baja Atlas, Baja Almanac, Satellite view)
that point is in Arroyo el Placer de los Peralta. The Almanac spelled it 'Perita'.
The location is just north of, and upstream of the merge with Arroyo el Volcán and crosses Mex 5 near Km. 106, just south of El Huerfanito.
The satellite view confirms it is water, as that is seen just downstream of the pond, in the arroyo, next to a shadow from the hill... the shadow is
also over some of the pond, I think.
Harald (4x4abc) is the expert at seeing things on Google Earth, so I look forward to his analysis.
[Edited on 6-17-2025 by David K]
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I thought that might be Arroyo Perita. Pretty remote area. It makes sense that there is water in a few places in there, similar to the eastern
escarpment of the Sierra Juarez and San Pedro Martir. The mountains in that area have less rain, smaller watershed, but a little water still finds
its way to the surface.
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Perita?
Is that Spanish for a small female dog?
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Did you guys see any named peaks nearby?
The Knight map shows Ronosa peak at 2034 ft but the 1948 geology map has it at 2934 ft. This peak right near the water is around 2900 ft.
30°07'43"N 114°47'36"W
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Small female puppy
sold out and got out !!!
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The three peaks with arrows on the geology map. The northern one is Cerro Canelo, the middle is labeled Ronosa on the Knight map, the southern one I
don't know.
https://octopup.org/img/media/maps/baja/1948--Baja-Californi...
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Quote: Originally posted by Lance S.  | Did you guys see any named peaks nearby?
The Knight map shows Ronosa peak at 2034 ft but the 1948 geology map has it at 2934 ft. This peak right near the water is around 2900 ft.
30°07'43"N 114°47'36"W
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OK I figured it out. That is Cerro El Huerfanito. Knight has it marked as Ronosa. Perhaps the water is called Tinaja or Aguaje El Huerfanito .
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Before seeing your last reply, I was going to say Cerro el Huerfanito, as it was the only peak that showed up near the spot, on the maps I was looking
at. El Huerfanito is the island near the shore, all alone, the little orphan. Not sure why a spring, out-of-view of it would have its name? The peak,
sure... I think the INEGI map also is named for the Little Orphan Island.
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Cerro El Huerfanito is so close to the water
I suspect that the only reason that little peak is named is because it was used as a landmark to find the water.
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The arroyo drops off just before the pool so it is probably a large tinaja, about 150 feet across when full.
Looks like it may fill with Tule between rains. Good source for balsas, edible as well.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lance S. |
Look at different image dates.
Does it line up with any names on old maps?
30°06'41"N 114°46'32"W
[Edited on 6-16-2025 by Lance S.] |
great find!
I had it listed a a spring - but the latest sat images show a natural dam and a pool that is sometimes full
the 2023 images show a large water outflow
Harald Pietschmann
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