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If you recall, power lines are to cross under the gulf from Sonora to around that area, south of El Barril, for much needed electricity. Maybe a
connection to what you are seeing?
[Edited on 6-20-2025 by David K]
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Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  |
Bahia San Carlos does look nice! I remember you passed through that area a while back on your No Wimps Trail, Harald.
I was just pondering if I could get myself all the way out there driving north from Alfredo V Bonfil when I spotted an elaborate airstrip there at
27.855152,-112.770566 (now ditched)
Not so sure I should go there.
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you can get out there coming from the south (Alfredo V Bonfil)
north access is blocked with gates
28.258439°, -112.871261°
28.243004°, -112.941237°
a new road makes access much easier than following Arroyo La Trinidad (link below)
you can drive as far north as the south gate of the Big Horn shooting range
28.026664°, -112.804868°
I highly recommend the drive north of La Trinidad - it is the most pristine Baja environment
no ranchos means no goats and cows
so nature is still intact and untrampled
great eagle population
go check out Rancho La Trinidad - it used to be a Boleo cattle station (like El gato and San Miguel)
there is a fish camp at the Boleo Salina - if occupied they have good fish for sale.
Attachment: 4x4 rural new San Carlos.kmz (12kB)
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | If you recall, power lines are to cross under the gulf from Sonora to around that area, south of Los Barriles, for much needed electricity. Maybe a
connection to what you are seeing? |
like the shippable canal between Mexicali and Tijuana (no joke), or the train to La Paz it might never happen
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| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | What do you all suppose this is at 27 53.716, -112 46.088
I was never able to drive past the locked gate back when and now I see a large marine project.
North of the landing strip along the Wimps track.
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not a marine project
it the El Boleo Salina La Trinidad
one might think the Salinas in Baja were used to gather salt for food preservation (fish etc)
but nope, the salt was needed by the mines for ore processing
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | you can get out there coming from the south (Alfredo V Bonfil)
north access is blocked with gates
28.258439°, -112.871261°
28.243004°, -112.941237°
a new road makes access much easier than following Arroyo La Trinidad (link below)
you can drive as far north as the south gate of the Big Horn shooting range
28.026664°, -112.804868°
I highly recommend the drive north of La Trinidad - it is the most pristine Baja environment
no ranchos means no goats and cows
so nature is still intact and untrampled
great eagle population
go check out Rancho La Trinidad - it used to be a Boleo cattle station (like El gato and San Miguel)
there is a fish camp at the Boleo Salina - if occupied they have good fish for sale. |
Thanks for the info and recommendation! I'll check it out the next time I'm in Baja
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We drove the gully track 7/2009 after that the fishermen made the new track. I show it my 2016 post above and found the locked gate.
A highly recommended drive and Harald mentioned For each of my drives I noted active fish camps - not to close to the main trail.
Beach camping is isolated and nice.
Harald Wrote:
a new road makes access much easier than following Arroyo La Trinidad (link below)
you can drive as far north as the south gate of the Big Horn shooting range
28.026664°, -112.804868°
I highly recommend the drive north of La Trinidad - it is the most pristine Baja environment
no ranchos means no goats and cows
so nature is still intact and untrampled
great eagle population
go check out Rancho La Trinidad - it used to be a Boleo cattle station (like El gato and San Miguel)
there is a fish camp at the Boleo Salina - if occupied they have good fish for sale.[/rquote]
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | If you recall, power lines are to cross under the gulf from Sonora to around that area, south of El Barril, for much needed electricity. Maybe a
connection to what you are seeing? |
like the shippable canal between Mexicali and Tijuana (no joke), or the train to La Paz it might never happen |
Yes, like that! LOL LOL 
(PS, I edited my blunder of pluralizing 'The Barrel')
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| Quote: Originally posted by geoffff | | Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | yes, I do know
it is a government reforestation project
usually found on larger properties
you gotta have staff that is able to apply for the money
you gotta have personnel and machines to do the work
I know of about 30 different projects in Baja
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Whoa! I wouldn't have guessed it! Thanks, Harald |
I have seen those patterns of lines at quite a few places on the satellite view and always wondered what they were. I figured either creating rows
for planting crops or sampling for minerals at the surface. Had no idea it was some kind of reforestation project. Though one must wonder, how does
scraping lines into the rocks with a bulldozer serve to "reforest" anything, especially when there was no forest to begin with?
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaric |
I have seen those patterns of lines at quite a few places on the satellite view and always wondered what they were. I figured either creating rows
for planting crops or sampling for minerals at the surface. Had no idea it was some kind of reforestation project. Though one must wonder, how does
scraping lines into the rocks with a bulldozer serve to "reforest" anything, especially when there was no forest to begin with?
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those mini terrasses accumulate fine dirt and seeds
the next rain will make the seeds start a plant
that will help retain more water in the region
rather than being washed into the ocean
the government has built thousands of small dams as well
Baja's population is growing
people need water
catching more of it during rain helps significantly
you may have you own opinion about the Mexican government
fact is, they do a lot of good work
most of it is only visible from space.
[Edited on 6-21-2025 by 4x4abc]
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there is a variant of those terrain lines
around El Triunfo
more than 100 years old
seems to be connected to mining
how, I don't know
maybe some of you have mining knowledge
El Triunfo mining bars below
[Edited on 6-21-2025 by 4x4abc]
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by bajaric |
I have seen those patterns of lines at quite a few places on the satellite view and always wondered what they were. I figured either creating rows
for planting crops or sampling for minerals at the surface. Had no idea it was some kind of reforestation project. Though one must wonder, how does
scraping lines into the rocks with a bulldozer serve to "reforest" anything, especially when there was no forest to begin with?
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those mini terrasses accumulate fine dirt and seeds
the next rain will make the seeds start a plant
that will help retain more water in the region
rather than being washed into the ocean
the government has built thousands of small dams as well
Baja's population is growing
people need water
catching more of it during rain helps significantly
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Oh, that makes sense now. Erosion control / water retention. Dams serve a purpose, though in the southwestern part of the US almost every major
river has a dam on it, to the point that some rivers (Kern, San Joaquin, Colorado) no longer flow to the sea. Internet prognosticators are always
saying "California lets all the water run into the ocean" which is simply not true. If they put a dam on the Mississippi to grow pistachios in Kansas
and let the Mississippi Delta dry up it would sort of be equivalent to the situation in the southwest.
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Making the best use of what little precipitation Mother Nature provides, is worth the effort.
Providing an opportunity for what little nature provides to soak in and not run off, carrying what little topsoil there is, has to be worth the
effort.
Yes I can be a dreamer at times.
No apologies intended.
Peace, love and so many more fish tacos for all Baja loving nomads.
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Based only on my own curiosity about what was going on with the rows of stones, I surmised that it was done to promote grazing opportunities for
ranchers and make herding stock easier and safer.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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