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 Mexican fishermen found after 11 months at sea
 Wednesday August 16, 07:36 AM
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 By Paul Tait
 
 SYDNEY (Reuters) - Three Mexican fishermen found drifting in the Pacific Ocean could have been lost for almost a year and two others were missing and
presumed dead, the manager of a fishing company that rescued them said on Wednesday.
 
 Early reports suggested the fishermen had been lost at sea for about three months and drifted more than 8,000 km (5,000 miles) before they were found
by a Taiwanese tuna fishing trawler in waters between the Marshall Islands and Kiribati on August 9.
 
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 But Eugene Muller, manager of Koo's Fishing Co. Ltd in the Marshall Islands capital of Majuro, said it now appeared they had been at sea much longer
than that in an extraordinary story of maritime survival.
 
 "The first report was three months, but after that we got some more word from the ship that it might have been since last September," Muller told
Reuters by telephone from Majuro.
 
 "It's a pretty long way from where they're from. It's more than three months," he said.
 
 The three men -- identified in media reports as Salvador Ordonez Vasques, Jesus Eduardo Vidana Lopez and Lucio Randon Bacerro -- are all from the
town of San Blas on Mexico's Pacific coast.
 
 Muller said details of how the men survived remained sketchy because of language difficulties between the Mexican fisherman and the Taiwanese crew of
the trawler that rescued them.
 
 He said it appeared the three men had survived on rain water, sea birds and fish they had been able to catch as they drifted in their 25-foot-long (8
metre) fibreglass boat.
 
 "They were very skinny and very hungry," he said.
 
 Muller said there were five men aboard the boat when it set out from San Blas.
 
 "Two of them jumped overboard a few days into their ordeal," he said. No further details were available about the other two men, who were presumed
dead, he said.
 
 It appeared their small fishing boat, equipped with two 200 horsepower outboard motors, had suffered engine problems soon after it left San Blas.
 
 "It looks like they had engine problems because their motors had been dismantled and it seemed like they were trying to salvage parts from one to get
the other one working," Muller said.
 
 The trawler which rescued the men was not expected to dock in the Marshalls for up to two weeks.
 
 Muller said Marshall Islands government officials had contacted the Mexican Embassy in New Zealand, which handles relations between the Marshalls and
Mexico, to arrange for the repatriation of the fishermen.
 
 The Mexican embassy in Wellington said the matter was being handled by the Mexican foreign ministry in Mexico City and gave no further details.
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 fast trolling I guess
  
 Ill bet the boat was painted black also
   
 
 
 
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 Think Bruce has their number. Twin 200 horse-power outboards?
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 "equipped with two 200 horsepower outboard motors"
 
 "authorities where not informed they where missing"
 
 "there was 5 people aboard and two died"
 
 
 My Tijuana instinct tells me these guys where probably not fishing at all.
 
 
 
 
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 Sounds fishee to me.
 Those are the Type of units that at one time would depart the Esturies{SP} on the West coast of Mexico in the evening Hours and head for such places
as San Sebastian{Just North of San Nicholas}, However one morning two of the boats were late in arriving and did not Heed the Heliocopters warning to
stop and one of the Boaters was machine-gunned to a state of Death. The other gave up!
 There has not been many of that kind going into San Sebastain as of Late--True Pangamadness!!!????
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 I bet they were happy the whole 11 months
   
 
 
 
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 some people get to go on all of the best adventure trips...time and money..never go together...
 
 
 
 
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 Survivor: Two shipmates died
 
 One of three fishermen rescued after a nine-month sea odyssey
 
 Wire services
 El Universal
 August 18, 2006
 One of three fishermen who claim they spent nine months adrift before being rescued off the Marshall Islands said their boat originally carried five
men, but two of them died and were thrown overboard, officials said Thursday.
 
 Fisherman Jes?s Eduardo Vi dana, who was rescued along with his shipmates by an Asian fishing boat last week, told Mexico?s am bassador to New Zealand
of the two other passengers during a conversation late Wednesday, said Miguel Guti?rrez, director of Consular Affairs for Mexico?s Foreign Relations
Secretariat.
 
 The announcement came at a Thursday morning news confer ence held by Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez, who reiterated that the govern
ment could not corroborate or discount the fishermen?s claims that they spent nine months at sea surviving on rain water, raw fish and faith, because
they were nev er officially reported as missing.
 
 Two of the men, whose com plete identities were not avail able, died because they refused to eat the raw fish, Guti?rrez said, re laying the story
Vidana told Mexi can Ambassador to New Zealand Mar?a Ang?lica Arce. ?There was little food, and they themselves refused to try the food,? Guti?rrez
said.
 
 One of the fishermen died in January and the other in February, Vidana said. Their bodies were thrown overboard immediately afterward, he said.
 
 Derbez said it was also difficult to corroborate Vidana?s story of the two dead fishermen because he is the only one who has given a testimony so far.
 
 ?It?s natural for people who have been nine months on the high seas ... not to have a complete story immediately,? Derbez said.
 
 The surviving fishermen, who are still aboard the Asian fishing boat that rescued them, are ex pected to arrive on the Marshall Islands early next
week, Guti?r rez said.
 
 Officials will then assess their health, interview them fur ther and provide them with the necessary documents to return to Mexico. He said the date
of the men?s return home would depend on their health and other factors.
 
 In phone interviews with the Mexican news media, Vidana said he and companions Lucio Rend?n and Salvador Ord??ez, set off on Oct. 28, 2005, from San
Blas, a Pa cific Coast town about 660 kilo meters (410 miles) northwest of Mexico City, to fish for sharks.
 
 However, mechanical prob lems and adverse winds quickly pushed their boat out to sea. The Marshall Islands are 8,800 kilo meters away from the coast.
 
 An employee of the captain?s office in San Blas confirmed that the men had not been reported missing. One explanation for the lack of a missing
persons? report is that the men apparently set out in their 8-meter (27-foot) boat on a short fishing expedition with little equipment ? just
flashlights and a compass ? and may not have formally advised port authorities of their departure.
 
 The men?s relatives could not be reached for comment. Howev er, the government news agency Notimex has quoted relatives of the men as saying they had
only been missing for three months.
 
 
 
 
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| Mexicans lost two crewmates 
 
 http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/mexicans-lost-two-crewma...
 
 August 19, 2006
 
 THE miraculous story of three Mexican fishermen who survived nine months adrift in the Pacific Ocean in a small boat has taken a new turn after it was
revealed there were five men on board the vessel when it began its voyage.
 
 Joel Hernandez Garcia, an official with the Mexican foreign ministry, said there were five people on board the boat when it set off on October 28 from
the village of San Blas on Mexico's Pacific coast to fish for shark in local waters.
 
 The boat was blown off course by a storm, and after running out of petrol, drifted for more than nine months and 8000 kilometres until the three
survivors were rescued last week by a Taiwanese tuna trawler.
 
 "Two of (the missing fishermen) apparently died after the passage to the open sea, as they were drifting," Mr Garcia said. "The survivors have
mentioned the probable time of death of the first person as January and the second person a month later."
 
 No mention was made of the dead fishermen during interviews with Mexican broadcasters earlier this week.
 
 But the operator of the Taiwanese boat said he thought the men said there had been five men, media reports said.
 
 The missing trio said they survived on raw fish, raw ducks, raw seagulls and rainwater. They caught the fish with hooks attached to the end of
electric cables from the boat's motor.
 
 "At one point, we went for 15 days without anything to eat," one of the survivors, Jesus Vidana, 61, said.
 
 Mr Garcia made his remarks after talking to Mr Vidana, who indicated "there was little to eat and that the other two refused to eat".
 
 Mr Garcia said the bodies of the two dead fisherman had been thrown overboard.
 
 The men said a Bible on board gave them hope and strengthened their faith. "We never lost hope, because we prayed day and night," Mr Vidana said.
 
 The nine-metre-long, three-metre-wide boat was nearly sunk by huge waves that swamped the vessel, and survived several storms, the men said.
 
 On August 9, the Taiwanese fishing crew spotted the crippled boat on their radar.
 
 The Mexican Government said the men would be brought home as soon as possible.
 
 They are now guests on the trawler, which is due to arrive in the Marshall Islands tomorrow.
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| Sailors never listed missing 
 
 http://torontosun.com/News/World/2006/08/18/1763031-sun.html
 
 August 18, 2006
 By AP
 
 MEXICO CITY -- Three Mexican fishermen who say they spent nine months adrift, surviving on rain water, raw fish and faith, were never officially
reported as missing, a top Mexican official said.
 
 Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez told reporters that he was surprised by reports of the fishermen's Aug. 9 rescue near the Marshall
Islands, 8,800 km from Mexico's Pacific coast.
 
 "The truth is that it really was a surprise, and it was a surprise for everybody, because there hadn't been any report that they were missing," Derbez
said. "They are physically well, obviously thin and surely hungry, but fortunately, well."
 
 Survivor Jesus Vidana said he and companions, Lucio Rendon and Salvador Ordonez, set off on Oct. 28, 2005, from San Blas, a Pacific coast town about
660 km northwest of Mexico City, to fish for sharks, but mechanical problems and unfavourable winds quickly pushed their boat out to sea.
 
 An employee of the port captain's office in San Blas confirmed that the men had not been reported missing.
 
 One explanation for the lack of missing persons' reports is that the men apparently set out in their 8-metre boat on a short fishing expedition with
little equipment -- just flashlights and a compass -- and may not have formally advised port authorities of their departure.
 
 The men's relatives could not immediately be reached for comment.
 
 However, the government news agency Notimex has quoted relatives of the men in San Blas as saying they had been missing for only three months.
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 Missing? Found? Rescued? Jesus said? Strange! 11 months? 3 months? What were those dudes smoking?
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 When is the book coming out?
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 Koo's Fishing Co.
 
 "They were very skinny and very hungry," he said.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The byline being [three tweakers on a boat]duz Mr. koooooooooooo own a publishing co.?
    
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| Rescued Mexican fishermen return home to defend their astounding tale 
 
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20060825-1414-mexi...
 
 Rescued Mexican fishermen return home to defend their astounding tale
 
 
 By E. Eduardo Castillo
 ASSOCIATED PRESS
 
 2:14 p.m. August 25, 2006
 
 MEXICO CITY ? Three fishermen who say they survived nine months adrift in the Pacific Ocean returned to Mexico on Friday and vehemently denied media
speculation that they were involved in drug trafficking or resorted to cannibalism to survive.
 Survivor Jesus Vidana, whose 4-month-old daughter was born while he was at sea, addressed the doubters of his tale, as all three fishermen offered to
take a lie detector test.
 
 ?I hope what happened to us doesn't happen to them,? Vidana said during a brief news conference the three gave upon arriving at the Mexico City
international airport early Friday morning. ?Personally, I'm just grateful that I'm here alive.?
 
 Later Friday, one of the three survivors, 28-year-old Lucio Rendon, arrived in his native Pacific coast state of Nayarit, where he was welcomed on the
tarmac of the Tepic city airport by a brass band, the local Catholic bishop, state officials, and sobbing family members who embraced him in a long,
emotional group hug.
 
 ?I'm crying from both nerves and joy,? Rendon's mother, Noemi Becerra, said, tears welling up in her eyes in the moments before her son's plane
landed.
 
 ?It's like I'm going to see him for the first time. It's as if he's being born all over again.?
 
 Rendon smiled as he was greeted by his parents, two sisters, a grandmother, aunts and uncles.
 
 ?Please let me be with my family,? he told the ever-present gaggle of Mexican and international journalists who have followed him since his return to
Mexico from the to give him some private time.
 
 He and his relatives later traveled in a bus lent by the state governor to their hometown of San Blas, where a Mass and community meal, as well as an
intimate family gathering, were planned for the weekend.
 
 Mexican and international news media have raised questions about the veracity of the fishermen's story, sugggesting the possibility that they were
drug traffickers.
 
 Mexico's attorney general says there is no evidence that the fishermen were smuggling drugs, but that officials would continue to look into the case
because their hometown is considered to be in a drug trafficking zone.
 
 Vidana, Rendon and fisherman Salvador Ordonez, say they left the Mexico port of San Blas, in Nayarit, on Oct. 28, 2005. They were rescued 285 days
later by a Taiwanese fishing boat near the Marshall Islands, 8,000 kilometers (5,000 miles) away.
 
 The fisherman said they set out with the boat's owner and another man on a shark-fishing expedition they expected to last a few days. But their
27-foot (8.23-meter) open boat with no cabin was swept out to sea and they ran out of gas. Exposed to the elements, the three survived by eating raw
fish and birds and drinking rain water.
 
 Ordonez said that shortly after leaving, the crew lost its fishing equipment and was ordered by the boat's owner, whom the three survivors knew only
as ?Senor Juan,? to look for it. Ordonez said he recommended against it, ?but he told me he could do what he wanted because he was the owner,? he
said. They ran out of gas during the search, he said.
 
 Both ?Senor Juan? and another man died after they refused to eat the raw food, the fishermen said. ?Senor Juan? died in January, while the second man
died in February, the fishermen said Friday.
 
 Over the months, prevailing currents pushed their spartan boat across the Pacific. They passed their time reading the Bible, singing and dancing.
Earlier this month, they were spotted by the fishing vessel.
 
 During the news conference, Rendon addressed doubts about their story.
 
 ?Those who are fisherman know these things happen,? he said.
 
 When asked if they would take a lie detector test, all three emphatically responded, ?of course.?
 
 Asked why they appeared to be in such good physical health following their ordeal, Ordonez said their rescuers fed them a great deal of food and made
sure they rested.
 
 ?They treated us very well, with air conditioning, and they didn't let us go out into the sun,? said Ordonez, nicknamed ?El Gato,? or ?The Cat,? by
boatmates for his bird catching skills. ?They gave us a lot of food.?
 
 With their return, the Mexican news media on Friday seemed to embrace the astonishing tale of the three plainspoken fishermen, whose tearful family
members appeared in television broadcasts from their homes in the coastal states of Nayarit and Sinaloa.
 
 Vidana's wife was too emotional to speak as she held her sleeping baby girl in a television studio.
 
 Asked what they planned to do next, Ordonez, from a small fishing port in the Pacific coast state of Oaxaca, replied, ?see the family for three or
four days and then get back to work.?
 
 
 
 
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 We've been following this story every day and it's pretty hard to believe these guys were that long drifting at sea...when they stepped off the boat
in the Marshall Islands they looked like they just came from a spa! Absolutely no scabs, no sunken cheeks, not even freckles....weird. I can't imagine
they recovered that quickly.
 
 
 
 
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 Just finished reading the in-depth story of the 3 (surviving) Mexican fisherman from San Blas adrift in a panga for nine months last year.  Holy
survival tale!
  
 It's in the Feb. 19/26 issue of the New Yorker magazine titled "The Castaways A Pacific odyssey." p. 136  Can't seem to find an online link to it but
it's well worth the read.
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