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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I don't think this can happen to Larry or Dennis or even myself because we are pretty savvy to how you do things here. But I have seen this sort of
thing happen to other people over the years right here in Mulege. and every time it has been a person that is new to Mexico an jumps right
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He wasn't new to Mexico. Should have known better.
No FM3? Then no legal lease, no basis for all the vehicles, business plans, remodeling, furniture...NADA.
Just like sheep to the wolves.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I don't think this can happen to Larry or Dennis or even myself because we are pretty savvy to how you do things here. But I have seen this sort of
thing happen to other people over the years right here in Mulege. and every time it has been a person that is new to Mexico an jumps right
in and starts some kind of business. |
He wasn't new to Mexico. Should have known better.
No FM3? Then no legal lease, no basis for all the vehicles, business plans, remodeling, furniture...NADA.
Just like sheep to the wolves. |
I agree Dave he could have save him a lot of grief buy having an FM3 also it is a little more difficult to deport some one that has a FM3 you have
more rights and options such as hearings. unfortunately he mad that and many more mistakes that all led to his currant problems.
Bruce R Leech
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docthaddeus
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AS SOON AS I GET MY THOUGHTS BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, I HAVE A MESSAGE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS ARRAY OF OPIONIONS AND,
THEREAFTER, I WILL CONTINUE ON MY QUEST. ALL IT TAKES IS ONE PERSONS VOICE TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THIS WORLD.
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Sharksbaja
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Attention
is what he got, fanned thoroughly.
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DENNIS
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This thing is going to 10,000. What's the record?
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Summanus
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Tropical Storm John
almost 60,000 hits.
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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DENNIS
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YIPES ...........
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DENNIS
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I dont think doct is in the running.
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Sharksbaja
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WHA??
Tropical Storm John beat-out Tropical Storm JR??
Whodathunk!
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docthaddeus
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Been doing some reading on Mexican law. It is illegal to steal someone's possessions. Regardless, of who they are. Or, where they came from.
What's worse are the people that see it done, and do nothing about it. The question is WHY? Is it FEAR or SURVIVAL.
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jerry
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i dont think the question is why its if they can get away with it?? and i think involving the bystanders isnt going to get anyone
just my opinion
jerry and judi
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Dave
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Earth to Thaddeus
| Quote: | Originally posted by docthaddeus
Been doing some reading on Mexican law. It is illegal to steal someone's possessions. Regardless, of who they are. Or, where they came from.
What's worse are the people that see it done, and do nothing about it. The question is WHY? Is it FEAR or SURVIVAL. |
Without an FM3 most of your possessions were in country illegally. Filing a theft report would be the same as a drug dealer claiming his stash was
stolen.
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Summanus
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guys, there is not much meat left on this bone.....
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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Sharksbaja
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Thats' my kind of mod er eating
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DENNIS
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Hey doct -----
How are you doing?
And your sock-puppet..... How is he doing?
I get from the above blood-and-guts visual that some here consider you're entertainment quotient , dry and deteriorated.
Gee whiz doc, I dont. I dont think we've scratched the surface of your dilema as of yet and we all should try better to understand you.
Your topic created huge response here and I would like to see it continued as a point of interest to care-less posters and serious viewers as well.
It never was un-Baja. It was interesting because viewers could relate to it, from a vulnerability standpoint anyway. We all worry about this,
regardless of legal standing in Mexico. It should be discussed to a point of clarity for all.
C'mon back doc but leave your sock- puppet out of it. It caused nothing but problems.
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doradodan
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amen. nuf said, basta ya
\"The time spent off the water, I\'m thinking of ways to get back in\"
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docthaddeus
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I have'nt been back as much as would like to be because I'm finally getting reaction to my experience via numerous e-mails which I intend to use in my
new web site entitled Don't go 2 Mexico. I'm working on the site now. I have some colleges that want to get involved in making a documentary about
this type of terrorism that takes place everyday within a stone thow away from our border.
For the negative viewers. The deportation papers stated that I had 24 hours to get my belongings. However, I never got that paper until I was taken
to the border and turned over to the U.S. side. The U.S. immigration officer advised me not to go back. If caught, I would be facing 7 years in the
Mexican prison system. He said that this was all part of their stealing process.
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Minnow
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Doc, you need to retitle this thread arrest and deportation, not illegal. It has been explained to you here that you had no rights in mexico in
regards to your posessions. You were, in the eyes of the law, a smuggler. You are lucky to get out with your freedom. Your posessions were your
fine. What would happen to you in the U.S. if you did the same? Time for you to move on.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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David K
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Doc, this web site is for people who want to and who do go to Mexico's Baja peninsula. With that in mind, promoting not going to Mexico here, on this
forum, would be counter to the goals and efforts of Doug Means and his moderators and supporters.
I have been going to Mexico (Baja California and the mainland) since 1965 hundreds of times and have NEVER had a bad experience that would have me
think twice about returning.
I went there as a 'tourist' or traveler, explorer, vacationer, etc. and not to try and take over or change any place mind you. Mexico belongs to the
Mexicans afterall and I am sure they all don't think a foreignor can just waltz in with a bunch of money and set up shop (with good intentions
perhaps) whenever or where ever he pleases.
Spend a couple years researching an area, get to know all the people who will be your neighbors or clients, bend your plans to their desires or
wishes... I believe then you would be a welcomed addition.
I am sure nobody is happy about what happened to you, it was terrible indeed... However, as you can gauge by the responces, nobody is really very
surprised either.
Mexico is not America or any other country. It has its own way of doing things, some of which seem very backwards perhaps, but it is THEIR way. Let
them make the changes and be patient... The election of a non PRI president two times in a row is a major change.
Telling your story here was fine, as bad news is as important as good news... but to continue an anti Mexico campaign on this site would not be
welcome by most, I would imagine...
May your future be free from conflict and full of happiness.
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coconaco
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Telling your story here was fine, as bad news is as important as good news... but to continue an anti Mexico campaign on this site would not be
welcome by most, I would imagine...
Well said- I think we are at the meat in the bone!
THE MINNOW must be lost!!!!!
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