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[*] posted on 7-4-2007 at 05:53 PM


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Might I suggest a nice pre-owned VW Kombi bus..........plenty of room for the doggies and co-pilot, and store all of your other stuff on the roof. Fast enough to get you where you might want to go (downhill), slow enough to enjoy the scenery (several times), great gas mileage. You will be the hit of the military checkpoints if you paint multi-colored daisys and rainbows all over it.....:lol::lol::lol:


just as long as you don't mind unloading and bacpacking you gear up the hills:coolup::coolup::coolup:
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[*] posted on 7-4-2007 at 07:48 PM


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[*] posted on 7-4-2007 at 07:58 PM


Bajaguy -- our friends have a Vanagon they want to unload (oh, it's here in Baja if there are any takers) -- it's in great shape and as I recall, low mileage. But we remember the stories from about 2 years ago of their driving here from Walnut Creek. He in the VW, she in the ancient Toyota druck (heck, it might even have been a Datsun!) He went up the Grapevine at about 25 mph; meanwhile she was already in LA....sounds like a fun vehicle for the flatlands. We'll be getting it listed for them soon here on the Nomad board with pix.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 07:18 AM


I wouldn't want to drive either one of those pigs, take less stuff and drive something smaller and more economical. I have a saying when I load up my motorcycle for a camping trip, 3 days or 3 years, I take the same gear.

[Edited on 7-5-2007 by 805gregg]
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 07:38 AM


For hotel-ing for 2 people and dogs, I think a jumbo SUV is too big. Big SUVs drive like crap, and are way too big for load you describe, and are a pain in the watusi to drive/park in cities. For hotel-ing travel I recommend a wagon, like subaru or audi makes. If you want an mid-size SUV w/ 2WD or 4WD, I suggest you look at toyota 4runner or other japanese mid-size SUVs -- they drive much better than monster SUV, are much more reliable than american-built vehicles, and suck less gas.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 03:14 PM


Alot of Jap cars are built in America by Americans.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 03:28 PM


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Alot of Jap cars are built in America by Americans.


But it seems that the gringos don't do quality work unless managed by japanese :P:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 03:35 PM


The CEO of Sony Corporation is a US citizen named Howard Stringer; the head of Nissan Motors is a Brazilian (Carlos Ghosn). Go figure.

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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 03:41 PM


i didn't mean the figurehead CEO level -- meant the staff level engineers that design or oversee production. the CEO does not do work, only goes golfing with other equally useless managers
having owned gringo and jap cars, I found fit, finish and durability of japanese to be better -- I will never again drive a gringo car after being burned so many times before.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 03:56 PM


On the original question, I'm going to go against the current.

I am a long-time Expedition owner (still have my 98 4wd).

Last year, we decided to do something similar: bring our two young kids on a multi-part Baja surf adventure for the summer and fall where we left the car various airports and would fly home for a few weeks of work, etc.

After a year of Baja travels, I have to say that I'm not as happy with the Suburban as I am with the Expedition. I like the extra room of the Suburban, but that may not be a deciding factor for you.

My main problem is that the Chevrolet steering appears not to be as tight as Ford's and that is certainly the case in my Expedition. On Highway 1, with big rigs coming at you and no shoulder, steering is a big deal. I've had this experience with other Chevy's I've driven -- and played a role in our initial decision to go with the Ford in 98.

In terms of parts, while the Suburban is more common in Baja, it's not particularly common. Ford seems to be more popular than Chevy's and the Expedition is built on the very popular Ford f150 platform. If you're in a remote location, Ford parts definitely appear easier to come by than Chevy.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 04:01 PM


The Suburban used to be the ride of choice for the Federales. They're probably driving Escalades now, purely in service to the country.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 05:21 PM


I said "appear"....

I'm hardly an expert, but I have spent the past two summers (and intermittent trips over the past 20 years) roaming around some remote parts of Baja. Since I switched to Chevy, I've been noticing these things. My sense is that I see more Fords than Chevy's among Mexicans....
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[*] posted on 7-5-2007 at 06:43 PM


My part of Baja - quite a ways from yours - many more Ford than Chev.



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[*] posted on 7-6-2007 at 07:00 AM


How about going with a full size truck with a diesel, get an extended cab put a camper shell on the back, your all set. I prefer dodge with a cummins.
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[*] posted on 7-6-2007 at 10:18 AM


I wasn't including Dodge, but I was including GMC.
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[*] posted on 7-6-2007 at 12:12 PM


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Alot of Jap cars are built in America by Americans.


But it seems that the gringos don't do quality work unless managed by japanese :P:lol:


When Nissan started building trucks in Tenn it was found that the trucks built in Tenn had less problems than the ones made in Japan. My last 2 Dodges were assembled in Mexico and I had no problems with either now at 180,000 miles between the 2.

[Edited on 7-6-2007 by 805gregg]
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[*] posted on 7-7-2007 at 10:47 AM
Thanks!


Before this thread slides off the board, I want to thank all the Nomads who gave me such a great education on what to buy for our trek (it will probably be a 4-runner). You guys are a treasure trove of useful information. Thanks again.

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[*] posted on 7-7-2007 at 11:25 AM


great, b'amigo....you just threw gasoline on the fire!!!!!!!:fire:
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[*] posted on 7-7-2007 at 12:12 PM


jeep grand cherokee has come out with a diesel (by mercedes ) but at over 40.000 lots of sticker shoch like my old cherokee more and more
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[*] posted on 7-7-2007 at 04:34 PM


I agree wih Howat regarding 4wd. I managed to get stuck in a 4wd Chev. Tahoe and it was a mess getting it out. It is better to park and walk to remote locations-better exercise!!



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