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MrBillM
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Fencing Defense
The "Open Borders" Crowd continually voices the canard that the people coming across our Southern Border are simply good people looking for work that
Americans won't do and that the terrorists aren't coming into the U.S. through Mexico.
Notwithstanding that there is no way to know whether terrorists are coming across the Mexican border until after the fact and that the prison inmate
population is up to 25 % illegal aliens, statistics quoted today in the news media indicate that there is a significant possibility that the porous
border is an open invitation to said terrorists.
The last quarter for which statistics have been reported indicate that there were more than 43.000 apprehensions of OTMs and that 40 % of those came
from "Countries of Concern" such as Syria and other Middle-Eastern Locales.
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toneart
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OK, MrBill. Thanks for the heads up. I am building a towering wall of fear around my personal residence. Oh, and I am feeding the
gators in my moat as fast as I can, but they just aren't growing. I guess they won't get bigger until the Syrian mojadas go for a swim. OOps...there's
one now>>>>>>:moon:
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MrBillM
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Living in FEAR ?
I suppose that I could take those remarks at face value and assume that the toneart is obsessively Paranoid, but I am assuming that it is a sarcastic
retort.
However, the logical extension of the thinking behind that retort would be to consider anyone who LOCK their doors at night (or day)
are living in fear.
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Dave
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It's ALL about fear
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
the logical extension of the thinking behind that retort would be to consider anyone who LOCK their doors at night (or day) are
living in fear. |
I grew up in a small midwestern town. We never locked our doors or windows. It wasn't until my dad died that my mother started latching the screen
door...Mostly because I insisted.
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DENNIS
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Sad Sad Sad.......
Where's the fence?
More fence or more Minutemen.........Maybe both. Why arn't people screaming for border control?
Probably because America has no self respect. We are a selfish people who couldn't care less about the team. Only our individual lives.
Sad Sad Sad
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oldhippie
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I think there is more border control now than before and it is increasing at a steady rate. The bigger problem is that the number of people in the
world that hate the US (mostly Muslim) is increasing faster than our attempts to control the border and keep them out. Why is that? It must be
possible to accomplish our objectives without counterproductively fostering hate.
"We are a selfish people who couldn't care less about the team. Only our individual lives. "
Very nice social democratic argument. I like it.
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"Whoever can scare people enough (produce bio-survival anxiety) can
sell them quickly on any verbal map that seems to give them relief,
i.e. cure the anxiety. By frightening people with Hell and then
offering them Salvation, the most ignorant or crooked individuals
can "sell" a whole system of thought that cannot bear two minutes of
rational analysis. And any domesticated primate alpha male, however
cruel or crooked, can rally the primate tribe behind him by howling
that a rival alpha male is about to lead his gang in an attack on
this habitat. These two mammalian reflexes are known, respectively,
as Religion and Patriotism. They work for domesticated primates, as
for the wild primates, because they are Evolutionary Relative
Successes. (So far.)"
- Robert Anton Wilson, in 'Prometheus Rising', 1983
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Dave
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How's that work?
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Probably because America has no self respect. We are a selfish people who couldn't care less about the team. Only our individual lives.
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Countries have self-respect?
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DENNIS
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You know what I mean.
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DENNIS
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I mean, it was easier than typing 300 million names here.
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So, you were serious there?
Cause, if so, I'll have to argue the point.
It's my impression that selfish people build walls. I don't see the American people as selfish...
Just fish. 
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oldhippie
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Especially those millions of hard to spell hispanic and arab names. 
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DENNIS
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Protective people build walls.
Selfish people don't concern themselves with issues which affect the well-being of their entire environment. Only what affects their little,
personal private, isolationist lives. They leave maintenance of the social structure to others and choose to believe it isn't their responsibility.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
Especially those millions of hard to spell hispanic and arab names.
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I have spill chick.
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Locking the Doors
When I was a young kid living next door to Watts, we usually kept our doors unlocked, but that was a long time ago and those days aren't coming back.
Living in a pretty decent L.A. neighborhood in the late 60s, I woke up one night to an odd sound coming from somewhere outside. I picked up my .38
Special from the Bedstand and walked into the kitchen to find that someone was trying to pry open the back door. I quietly sat down at the kitchen
table and waited to see if the person would be "successful". He (She ?) finally gave up and went away. Too bad. I ended up with a bunch of
screwdriver gouges on the door frame and nothing to show for it.
It's probably just as well, though. It was likely just an immigrant looking for a job that nobody else wanted.
"Trust, but Verify" Ronald Wilson Reagan
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Living in fear? Are you living in fear when you buy insurance? When you lock your vehicle? Maybe you're being smart.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
"Trust, but Verify" Ronald Wilson Reagan |
His way of saying, "Don't trust anybody till you know for sure."
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As so artfully stated in the Wilson quote above, a very large part of the reason for fear is the fact that two huge groups of people on the planet
have decided that the other's religion is invalid, and thus the believers have no right to live. In a hideous bit of irony they both worship the same
god.
This Californian STILL has no reason to lock his doors except perhaps for protection from the all too common door to door religion salesmen.
We NEED fences and locks. Don't we all teach children to lock their toy boxes to be sure they don't have to share their toys?
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Living in fear? Are you living in fear when you buy insurance? When you lock your vehicle? Maybe you're being smart. |
With what I pay for insurance I think I must be living in terror! The
escalating rates passed "fear" some time ago, and it's been years since the rates passed "being smart."
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
We NEED fences and locks. Don't we all teach children to lock their toy boxes to be sure they don't have to share their toys?
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No, we don't. We tell them to lock things so they won't lose them. So they can have control. So they can be theirs, now and always.
Do you teach your kids to drag their toybox out to the curb, open it up and have no regrets the next morning when it's empty?
I doubt that you do.
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