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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 12:11 PM
Presidente Caldron--"Wherever there is a Mexican," he said, "that is Mexico."


Now that is really telling it like far too many folks see it.

Following that logic I guess that means that you ex-pats in Baja make Baja....the United States...somehow I don't believe that.

See link on his State of Mexico Address below for the quote.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09...




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 03:05 PM


Bernie, you're behind the curve. Should we pull over and wait?

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=26636




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 03:29 PM
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Can't stay ahead of the pack all of the time.....Still it is a different source so I'll just doddle along and remember that there have been so many statements like this from past Mexican Presidents that it appears to be an official policy.

No non-Mexican appears to care much about what...ah! shucks, just go ahead without me.....I don't much care either....Two of the grandkids are set because their last names are 'Villalobos' and the other one is a Jewish kid and I know he will land on his feet.




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 03:45 PM


Well I guess I'll throw in a thought from Grasshopper.

This knowing that sometimes stupid comments get you tossed out of Mexico.

Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico....

Well Fresno County is over 50% Mexican and I'm sure not having much fun here, the fishing sucks too, Dos XX's is also very expensive.

I'm glad to know the US isn't the only place with a President with a mouth not attached to his brain.
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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 03:59 PM


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Well Fresno County is over 50% Mexican and I'm sure not having much fun here,


What do you expect from a area that was once part of Mexico?




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 04:04 PM


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there have been so many statements like this from past Mexican Presidents that it appears to be an official policy.


It IS official policy...and commendable. I wish that my government would say, "We've got your back".

I remember when holding a U.S. passport actually meant something.




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 05:11 PM


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It IS official policy...and commendable. I wish that my government would say, "We've got your back".

I remember when holding a U.S. passport actually meant something.

Under present day circumstances, it didn't seem commendable at all. Support for citizens abroad is in itself admirable, even responsible to be concerned for the rights and well-being of travelers on foriegn soil. These were not of whom he spoke. He gave his support and blessing to a huge group of his countrymen who have violated the laws of the United States with illegal entry. Right to the top, through the State Of The Nation address, he, speaking for Mexico, condoned that act. Condoned the act of breaking the laws of the United States. This is rhetoric for activists, not presidents. It was an international insult.
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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 06:07 PM


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It was an international insult.


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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 06:15 PM


WHERE'S THE FENCE?????



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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 06:49 PM
Point taken...


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He gave his support and blessing to a huge group of his countrymen who have violated the laws of the United States with illegal entry.


However:

One wouldn't need their government's protection if one didn't run afoul of the law, would one? :rolleyes:

(However juvenile or selectively applied)




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 07:08 PM


Bernie! It's CaldEron (with an accent on the o)!!! Have you taken up writing for the Gringo Gazette?
See Dennis' post for reference!
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=26633#pid2566...

and screw that fence.




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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 07:11 PM


Well, Dave, I don't know. If one breaks a law in his own country, the government usually prosecutes rather than protects. It's the irony of all this crap that if one breaks the same law in a foriegn country, his government goes out of their way to offer protection. So, breaking laws ceases to be a moral issue. It turns into an issue of geography.
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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 07:45 PM


Man...... If that gets twisted just a bit more..........
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[*] posted on 9-8-2007 at 08:32 PM
Golly bajabound2005--I am, I think, so sorry I offended you


Even the spelling police don't normally give references...I do appreciate your efforts to educate me.

Would you please explain why I would wish to 'shrew' a fence.




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 08:53 AM


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Even the spelling police don't normally give references...I do appreciate your efforts to educate me.

Would you please explain why I would wish to 'shrew' a fence.

Gotta get those glasses tuned up, Bernie.
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 04:45 PM


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and screw that fence.

Maybe you can see it better now.
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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 05:48 PM
Dennis,


Thank you for your offer of assistance.

I saw exactly what the lady wrote and I wrote exactly what I meant to write.




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 06:04 PM


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Originally posted by bajabound2005
Bernie! It's CaldEron (with an accent on the o)!!! Have you taken up writing for the Gringo Gazette?
See Dennis' post for reference!
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=26633#pid2566...

and screw that fence.


I am reporting this post as being, hostile, mean spirited, and intentionally meant to demean another poster.:lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 9-9-2007 at 06:57 PM


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I am reporting this post as being, hostile, mean spirited, and intentionally meant to demean another poster.:lol::lol:

Yep. That's the beauty of it.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 12:55 AM


Guess we don't need those Mexicans any more eh? Great film Nomads, A Day Without Mexicans, you will enjoy it.

To some what is now called California, Texas and other names was once the normal seasonal migration route of peoples now living in what is called Mexico. Some actually believe that the land was stolen. Imagine that? Some even believe that those lands are actually still part of a country called Mexico. Guess some even have a view of a "manifest destiny" that would return those migration routes and land to their original uses and ownership. Odd thinking isn't it?

There are some who actually see Mexican migrant workers as heroes who have saved their families and villages from object poverty and want to support those people. Imagine a government that says to it's people who risk their very lives to obtain an income and support their families and villages in this land called Calfiornia etc., "no matter where you are We are with you and we honor and will try to protect you and your interests".

These words, though uninforceable, must feel good in the ears of a migrant worker, far from home who is afraid of what will become of him and his family in these new lands.

These words sound like "Give me your poor and huddled masses", which is of couse just lip service now.

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