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BajaBruceFan
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Heat in the Winter?
Last December & January we often found the evenings in our rented casita in Baja Sur a bit chilly & we ended up using a space heater to take
the chill off.
Now that we're finalizing our building plans, I'm just wondering if most folks down there have baseboard or convectional heaters permanently installed
like we do up north or if everyone just uses portable heaters when it does get chilly.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
BBF
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Woooosh
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I didn't put heat or AC in when I built my house- just a fireplace. The sun does hit the slate floors in the day and they release heat at night to
keep the house pretty warm (if the doors are closed... never). A little planning in the passive-solar department will go a long way.
I do admit that we have a Home Depot propane heater we fire up three or four nights year and we use heated mattress pads.
[Edited on 11-22-2008 by Woooosh]
[Edited on 11-22-2008 by Woooosh]
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Osprey
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Because of the high cost of electricty attendant to space heaters we use a heater that looks like an old fashioned radiator. It is filled with heavy
peanut oil ---- slowly heats the space it's in, shuts down the electric power when the oil hits a high temp. Very low usage-cost, no maint and we
think perfect for 50 to 60 nights and AMs down here. Google up Honeywell space heaters and you'll find it.
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Bob and Susan
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do you have electricy at your location?
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Get the right spouse.  
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I put a 5 gal propane tank on wheels and mount a two burner Mr. Heater on top and roll it around to where I need the heat. My Mr. Heater is pretty old
and I want to replace it but Calif. has decided they are unsafe or something and I can't find them. I remember a neighbor saw or bought a propane
heater in La Paz that rolls around and the tank fits inside the cabinet with the heater element.
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Bob and Susan
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this is what we have...
bbq size tank is inside
some people get headaches using propane...
...weird we don't
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Bob and Susan
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oh yea
1490 pesos at home depot in ensenada
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Bob:
What is the btu rating and does it have a fan???
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lingililingili
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If your feet get cold at night I have a perfect solution. I made rice packs you can heat in the microwave and take to bed with you, they work great!
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bajaguy
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Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
I put a 5 gal propane tank on wheels and mount a two burner Mr. Heater on top and roll it around to where I need the heat. My Mr. Heater is pretty old
and I want to replace it but Calif. has decided they are unsafe or something and I can't find them. I remember a neighbor saw or bought a propane
heater in La Paz that rolls around and the tank fits inside the cabinet with the heater element. |
Russ....if you are looking for a smaller model, take a look at this:
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDi...
Or a Mr Heater:
http://www.stpaulmercantile.com/MrHeaterVentfree.htm
[Edited on 11-22-2008 by bajaguy]
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bajajudy
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I have to vote for a fireplace. We have one in our office for when it gets cool. You can also include a place to cook for when there is no luz.
Watching football games by the fire is pretty great come Superbowl time
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Russ
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BajaGuy, That URL didn't open for me but got me to HD and they have one close to the one I want. Last year I couldn't find any double mantle units.
Thanks!
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Ensenada had more than 12 nights at 37-48F temps last winter.
1. I like gas log fireplaces. Wood is scarce in Baja and wood fireplaces are extremely inefficient.
2. RH Peterson is one of a handful of manufacturers of realistic gas log sets.
http://www.rhpeterson.com/#/RealFyre/VentFree
3. Read all you like about hazard of vent free gas fireplaces, but, they are the most efficient. Do you vent your gas stove when boiling water? Vent
free are illegal in California, but, available if you are creative.
4. Baja Outdoor Living in Cabo is a dealer for RHP. I gave B.O.L. credit card and they worked out the deal for me. Ed, owner, also insisted I listen
to him for 60 seconds extra on why proper valve setup for mexican propane would burn clean v. normal valve designed for US propane. No BS as my
neighbors got soot all over living area from incorrect valve for mex propano. So thanks Ed and Baja Outdoor Living.
5. Vandenberg has a good idea. But, as a bachelor, I prefer rentals for that need v. ownership.
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BajaBruceFan
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
do you have electricy at your location? |
Yes, we will have electricity - I'm just looking over the electical plans and trying to decide if its worth wiring for permanent heat in at least the
master bedroom & bathroom, and the living room.
At home we have convectional heaters from www.convectair.ca - they are wall mounted 220V units and heat up a room very efficiently - but the units are pricey. Wondering if it would be
overkill down south.
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you will find out propane is the way to go, electricity is very expensive for heat
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We have 2 of the portable propane heaters with fans...but we don't use the fan because it sucks up the wattage. We also have a huge woodstove that we
use on occasion. The direct-vent propane "fireplaces" are very popular, can't buy in California, Arizona yes. They work GREAT. And those heated
mattress pads are to die for. We just turn it on for few minutes to warm things up before we climb under the covers.
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
you will find out propane is the way to go, electricity is very expensive for heat |
Good advice. Plan for as little electricty as you can. It's expensive and you'll go over your "cap" with computers, freezers, big TV's and all the
other gringo trappings. You can easily get hit with a six or seven thousand peso bill (about $500 for two months).
Go propane for cooking, water heat (tank or on-demand), pool heater, fireplace (all gas or the gas log lighter) and your heat. If I could do it over-
I would have run gas lines to each room and capped them off. Then I could have added a gas wall-mount heater in each room as the need arose. There
are a large variety of wall-mount gas heaters.
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Our little house in Cantu has a wall propane heater that we manually turn on to get heat from and we also have a gas fireplace - both of them in the
"great room". Because we built the house with steel framing and insulated the walls, these two relatively small sources of heat do the trick. And
definitely propane is the least expensive means. We have a friend who bought a portable electric heater and her bill from CFE went through the roof.
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BajaNuts
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A less expensive option to the ConvectAir heaters are Cadet Hydronic baseboards. They are an electric baseboard, but insted of metal fins, they have
a copper manifold filled with a glycol solution that acts as a radiant heat source after the heater has shut off. We have installed may of these
units and they give off a really nice warmth. They are electric...and keeping in mind the price of electricity, it may not be the right choice for
Baja.
If you do want to go with something electric, check out the Cadet hydronics for a non-fan type heater or KING Pick-A-Watt brands for small forced-air
wall heaters.
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