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sc-surfer
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Pangas for sale??
Where would one look for a typical Baja panga for sale? How much would a decent one run?
Thanks!
Vanagon Syncro Westfalia
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Russ
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Just a guess here. Decent one with T-top $5000 up. I have a '92 super ponga with an 2002 Yamaha 100hp 2 stroke new..ish Pacific trailer and good
electronics. I'd ask $12,000 for it. Here's a photo just for reference:
Edit.. can't post pic and my avatar is gone????
[Edited on 11-24-2008 by Russ]
[Edited on 11-24-2008 by Russ]
get this message, "MySQL has encountered an unknown error. To find out the exact problem, please set the DEBUG flag to true in header.php." 
[Edited on 11-24-2008 by Russ]
I think I got it figured out? Had an " ' " in the photo name
[Edited on 11-24-2008 by Russ]
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Bob and Susan
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my neighbor just got older regular panga
with an older 60hp two stroke
$5000 with an older trailer
no t-top just a bimini top
russ has a much NICER boat...
now thats a fishing machine that could travel around
there is a new one here in mulege for about 17 grand
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BajaGringo
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I think that you can get one of these for less than a grand...
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bajamikey
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bob and susan do you have a photo or info on the one in mulege
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bajajudy
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Not a panga
A guy here has this boat for sale for $10,000 OBO
U2U me if interested for more details
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vandenberg
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mikey, check your U2U
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toneart
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You can get less for less, but Russ's is the perfect fishing boat for the SOC. Go for it!
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Bob and Susan
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"I think that you can get one of these for less than a grand..."
i got two simular for $50 each and one for $75
these are all over the place
problem is they don't float very long without bailing
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Paula
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Diane Trotter might go for one of BajaGringo's pangas
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
"I think that you can get one of these for less than a grand..."
i got two simular for $50 each and one for $75
these are all over the place
problem is they don't float very long without bailing |
I was quoting pesos...
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Pescador
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You need to be a little more specific as to the area. I have looked in La Paz where a typical 21 foot fishing panga with 4 or 5 seats across were
going around $750 US for an edgy one that might need some fiberglass up to $1500 US for a pretty nice boat. In other areas the price is relative to
the local market. In Loreto I found the fishing pangas pretty expensive whereas in Santa Rosalia where there were more available, they were a little
less expensive. These boats were built to be tiller steered and were workhorses, easy to fix with a little fiberglass. The most famous of these
boats were built by Arca and were great boats in terms of how they handled. From the mainland, there were lots of Reforma boats built and they were
marked by higher gunnels in the rear of the boat to keep spray off of the operator. Because of their hull design they sprayed a lot more than the
Arca boats. Ensenada had their own boat design which was a kind of mix and their boats were more designed to surf launch but I think the ride was
never as good as the ARCA boats.
An early builder of the Arca boats was Lupe Diaz who is the designer and builder of Russ's boat. Lupe had a labor dispute and left Arca and started
building super pangas which were a whole different boat and not a modified fishing boat with ladder style seats. The early boats were narrower than
the current boats but did have some tendency to flex in the middle and delaminate the deck from the hull. Later boats of Diaz design took care of
this flaw. These boats are probably the best riding boat ever designed for the sea of Cortez. The 23 especially, has the right length to ride the
typical waves of the Sea of Cortez well.
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
The early boats were narrower than the current boats but did have some tendency to flex in the middle and delaminate the deck from the hull. Later
boats of Diaz design took care of this flaw. These boats are probably the best riding boat ever designed for the sea of Cortez. The 23 especially,
has the right length to ride the typical waves of the Sea of Cortez well. |
Can you tell me how to tell the difference? Was it model number or year of make?
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toneart
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Pescador
Russ says his is a "super panga" in his post. It looks to be a 23 or 24 foot super panga and built by Diaz, as you say. Arca (or Arce ?) is now
located in Las Barilles, I believe. I have seen his new super pangas that are equipped a lot like Russ's. They cost a lot more new! I wonder why Russ
is selling? It would be hard to replace what he has.
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Russ
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Mine is a 21' Diaz. I could use the $ now and I haven't been using it the way I use to. It's an excellent boat and I really can't think of another
boat I'd like more down here. Mine is pretty well equipped. And last time I had it out it ran flawlessly. Just now considering selling it so don't
have a list of all the goodies that will go with it. If there is someone that is interested at this price they should come out and we'll take it for a
cruise and go over what's what.
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Pescador
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As Russ says, his is the 21 Diaz super panga which is narrower than the new panga which is basically a 23. Lupe made the new mold wider and put in
some interesting reinforcement points. Harry Oxley has one of the new molded boats and has twin 55's on his boat and it is a really sweet boat. Arca
went out of business and the last I saw of the molds was that they were pretty much unusable. A hardware and lumber yard in La Paz bought them and
tried to make a few boats but it was pretty much a non-functional disaster. When Lupe Diaz left La Paz he moved to Las Barrilles and made a lot of the
super pangas but when Van Wormer came in on a patnership, they went exclusively to the newer molds. They now make a sport edition, a full blown
super-panga with deck caps and the whole works, and are now building a small sportfisher which looks to be a really well built and designed boat for
the charter business on the east cape.
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Russ
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Jim, Harry just put a 115hp on his ponga with Bill Hammil doing the work. Now it's not only beautiful but quiet too.
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bajamikey
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is there a web site for the boats lupe diaz/van wormer are making in los barrilles
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Diver
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Drool away !!
http://vandiazboats.com/
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Pescador
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Jim, Harry just put a 115hp on his ponga with Bill Hammil doing the work. Now it's not only beautiful but quiet too. |
I knew that he was putting a motor on, but assumed it was the other boat. Wow, now I need to get a ride on the new boat.
PS, it is Panga ponga would mean the imperative conjugation of put. Like Ponga lo aqui.
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