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nancita
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do children still need notorized permission from abcentee parent to enter Baja?
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woody with a view
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most likely. why would the law change? to make it easier for parents to kidnap their child and take them across the border?
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movinguy
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Yes
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cabobaja
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By air, no! My 10 year old son flew into San Diego from Los Cabos. He only needs to show his US passport entering US and his Mexican passport entering
Mexico. He flew Alaska Airlines. They, US Immigration and Mexico Immigration requires no other documents.
But, if the child is flying the airlines will advise you. If the child is crossing at a US/Mexico border crossing, check with US/Mexico Immigration.
If the child
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
By air, no! My 10 year old son flew into San Diego from Los Cabos. He only needs to show his US passport entering US and his Mexican passport entering
Mexico. He flew Alaska Airlines. They, US Immigration and Mexico Immigration requires no other documents.
But, if the child is flying the airlines will advise you. If the child is crossing at a US/Mexico border crossing, check with US/Mexico Immigration.
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Was the childs mother with you? From my understanding.. the child does need written permission for the absent parent to enter Mexico with only one
parent.
Perhaps you have outlined a loophole in the law that allows "rich" people (that can afford a plane ticket) to kidnap their children? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
By air, no! My 10 year old son flew into San Diego from Los Cabos. He only needs to show his US passport entering US and his Mexican passport entering
Mexico. He flew Alaska Airlines. They, US Immigration and Mexico Immigration requires no other documents.
But, if the child is flying the airlines will advise you. If the child is crossing at a US/Mexico border crossing, check with US/Mexico Immigration.
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Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why misslead the people.
Any child traveling "alone, with only one partent or with whoever" MUST HAVE a notarized afidavit from the non present or both non preset parents
giving permision to travel.
If whoever is traveling with the child has legal custody, he/she must present documentation stating that.
[Edited on 11-28-2008 by fdt]
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
He only needs to show his US passport entering US and his Mexican passport entering Mexico. |
And his Chinese passport entering China?
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Ken Bondy
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Yes, of course they do. Any child entering Mexico with only one parent needs notarized permission from the other parent.
carpe diem!
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Mango
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Thanks Ken and FDT for setting this straight.
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fdt
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Just google "International child abduction".
This is very delicate.
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cabobaja
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fdt, please......I have not mislead anyone. I gave you the truth. My 10 year old son flew here to San Diego for Thanksgiving ALONE from Los Cabos. Not
the first time. NO, I repeat, NO notarized affidavit was required.
If you want to question me, call Alaska Airlines and they will also tell you.
Ken, I know your intentions are good, but you are wrong also.
I gave nancita the truth by air, and also advised him/her to contact US/Mexican Immigration if the child enters via the border.
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cabobaja
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Mango, your assuming I am rich? Read my post. If you have further questions U2U me.
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It is hit or miss. Even if they did not ask for the affidavit a particular time or two, that doesn't mean that it is not required. I wouldn't think of
going into Mexico without it. It's only ten dollars for the notarization.
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Katiejay99
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My children visited me almost every summer and they always had a signed and notarized letter from their father giving his permission but the airlines
never asked them for it. Then came the exception. My 16 year old was flying alone and this one time he forgot to get the letter from his dad. I got a
phone call from him when he was in LA waiting for his connecting flight. He was in tears. His dad could not be found by phone (he was in MS) and I had
no way to get anything notarized (it was a Sunday and the consulate office was closed). The airlines held him up until the final call for his
connecting flight and then, with me on the phone pleading that they allow him to get on the flight, they did so.
It was very traumatic for my son. It is just much easier to have the proper paperwork at hand, whether they ask for it or not.
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Ken Bondy
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cabobaja I advise that you be very careful with this, before you call experienced individuals wrong. As others have pointed out, the fact that you
are not asked for the notarized permission form does not mean it is not required. My kids have accompanied me into Mexico (via private aircraft) more
than fifty times without their mother, but I ALWAYS had her notarized permission form with me. I was asked for it only three times, once in Tijuana,
once in Mexicali, once in La Paz. It would have been extremely stressful for me, the kids, and others on the trips if we would have been detained or
refused entry for lack of the permission slip. I realize we could have begged, looked sad, and tried mordida if the officials insisted on the missing
permission form, and maybe they would have let us pass. But maybe they wouldn't. The permission form is so easy to obtain it is difficult for me to
see why you are so adamant that it is not required. Why don't you just check with a Mexican consulate office and see what they say.
carpe diem!
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movinguy
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I was denied boarding an America West flight from Phoenix to Guaymas with my daughters because I didn't have notarized permission from their mother.
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fdt
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Sorry cabobaja if you feel ofended, that is not the intention, the truth is that international child abduction is a very serious matter and it's
usualy the other parent that is the abducter. Who is this nancita? Asking if children "still" need notarized permision? Needs storage in Los Barriles?
Said also that a "friend" wants to fly from Canada but not land in the US?
I have personal experience with stuff like this and the red lights are flashing.
If Alaska Airlines personel are not following the rules, I think it should not be condoned.
http://www.crnjapan.com/prevention/en/airlines.html
http://apostille.us/news/continental_airlines_sued_for_negli...
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-132045949.html
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Marie-Rose
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We also had an experience with Alaska Air requesting a copy of notarized permission in LA when we were traveling with friends. The father of the
children was booked on a flight that was leaving earlier so he had been checked thru and when we went thru with the mom and kids... they wanted a
notarized permission slip. At that time, Carol actually got the paperwork done in the LA airport. Cost her $100 and a very close call on making her
flight. Don't chance it!!!!!
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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David K
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It is better to HAVE IT and not need it, than to NEED IT and not have it!!!
As a single parent, with dozens of driving trips to Baja with one or both of my children... as well as taking one of their friends south on
occaision... (to 2006) I can tell you all that I have NEVER, NEVER been asked to show the permission slip...
In fact, the only time I was asked... when I was driving south at 16 years of age, with friends (1974) was at Mexicali. The border gaurd asked our
ages, then said we were too young to enter Mexico. To that I replied, "WE have the necessary papers!"... The gaurd responded, "YOU have the necessary
paper?"... I repeated, "YES, we have the necessary papers!". With that (and not asking to see them), he waved us into Mexico and said, "PASA, HAVE A
GOOD TIME!!"
Gotta love the place!!
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Rules do change-- I for years went through the notarized permission process and still would do so if I still had minor children-- but a few years ago
a friend asked me what to do as the airline advised her she did not need the notarized form. so I checked the Mexican Embassy here in DC and with
Alaska airlines to confirm their practice. They faxed me the Mexican immigration directory about the traveling children requirement and it clearly
stated no notarized letter was required for travel on Alaska- so being a reseacher I went to Continental who also confirmed no letter was required.
The Mexican Embassy also- after a lot of time and several calls to different representatives- said the requirement had been repealed. this was about
2006-
So before everyone blows a gasket- I said if I was still doing the minor transport thing I would get the letter- because sure as you don't the kid
will have a cut foot requiring a stitch or two and the hospital will ask for your authority or the dopey 16 year old will be caught drinking beer or
riding the ATV on the beach and to get him out of jail some local yokle will ask for the letter- and no amount of explaining that the Embassy said I
don't need will make any difference.
so for me the answer is clear - It's no longer required but is really a good idea-- Norm
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