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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 05:55 PM
Vizcaino to Bahia de los Angeles via San Rafael


I'm thinking of doing this leg in early January in a 4X4 pickup (have never done before) and have a few questions:
1. Should I take the turnoff about 6 miles north of Vizcaino and then turn north at Ejido Angel Cesar to El Arco or drive further north on Hiway 1 to the El Arco turnoff?
2. By plotting on Google Earth - I get somewhere about 140 miles - is this doable, taking our time in 8 hours?
3. Should we plan an over-night stop with Poncho?
I will have 2 or 3 college kids with me - any 'must sees/dos' along the way?
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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 06:14 PM


DO NOT NEED to go through EL ARCO!!

The road goes first to Guillermo Prieto then straight north to the San Francisquito- El Arco road... It crosses the Santa Gertrudis mission road just west of Miraflores... You can see it on Google or Wikimapia.org. Drove it back in New Years '02... very good road.

The almost 12 mile side trip to the mission is an interesting detour...

[Edited on 11-29-2008 by David K]

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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 06:16 PM


Here's the AAA map with the section drawn in that they forgot to map on this new edition.

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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 06:54 PM


yea, the cutoff from Vizcaino is about 5 miles north and is an easy, fast road. The road doesn't get rough until you get to the mountains. Mission St. Gertrudis is well worth the stop. The artifacts and mission are very nice...check it out.

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[*] posted on 11-29-2008 at 08:38 AM
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Santiago, here are the GPS waypoints from my GPS web page that cover the road... north to south... change you GPS map datum from the factory setting of WGS84 to NAD27 Mexico. This is so the waypoints can be plotted on the Mexican topo maps (Baja Almanac).

L.A. Bay South to Hwy. 1

Diaz' at L.A. Bay: 28°56.76'/ 113°33.51'

Camp Gecko: 28°54.04'/ 113°31.69'

Las Flores: 28°49.08'/ 113°31.73'

Terminal Canyon Trail head: 28°44.44'/ 113°32.77'

Jcn. Old Rd. (south turn for next 4 waypoints): 28°40.72'/ 113°25.41'
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Rancho Paredones road east: 28°36.80'/ 113°24.55'

La Bocana/San Pedro Jcn: 28°28.39'/ 113°23.43'

Trail south to Tinaja Sta. Maria: 28°28.00'/ 113°20.42'

Tinaja Santa Maria: 28°26.07'/ 113°19.99'
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Bahia Las Animas Rd. (N): 28°40.52'/ 113°21.72', Las Animas: 28°48.57'/ 113°21.34'

Bahia San Rafael Jcn: 28°34.78'/ 113°07.41'

Jcn. Old Rd. (south end): 28°26.05'/ 113°10.41'

Jcn. Old El Arco Rd. (go east): 28°20.77'/ 113°01.82'

Jcn. New Rds. (east to S. Francisquito, south to El Barril or Hwy.1): 28°21.08'/ 113°00.33'

Jcn. at El Progreso (south to El Barril, west to Hwy.1): 28°20.58'/ 113°00.33'

Top of Cuesta de la Ley: 28°17.71'/ 113°06.14'

Fork, ahead/west for El Arco, turn left/south for new road to Hwy.1: 28°10.42'/ 113°13.08'

Crossroad, south to state border and Hwy.1, east to Mision Sta. Gertrudis (& next 3 waypoints): 28°01.45'/ 113°14.45'
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Rancho Miraflores: 28°01.45'/ 113°13.76'

Rancho Guadalupe: 28°02.36'/ 113°09.33'

Mision Santa Gertrudis: 28°03.95'/ 113°05.05'
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State Border, Mountain Time Zone: 28°00.00'/ 113°16.16'

Guillermo Prieto: 27°50.62'/ 113°17.84'

'T' Jcn., turn west: 27°49.97'/ 113°17.94'

Hwy. 1 Jcn. (south-east to Vizcaino): 27°43.41'/ 113°27.23'




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[*] posted on 12-1-2008 at 09:28 AM


Here's the 'new road' about the point where it crosses the state border (use your mouse to zoom out or move around): New road at state border

Here's the north end of the 'new road' where it meets the El Arco/ San Francisquito road (just west of Arroyo Purificacion): North end of new road

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[*] posted on 12-1-2008 at 05:02 PM


Hey Santiago;
Pancho's beach is great for a stop. No supplies or anything available though. As far as must stops for college kids. I would take them to Hussongs, Whale watching and maybe some boat camping with one of those big bottles of Cazadores.
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[*] posted on 12-1-2008 at 07:36 PM


MM: yeah - but what do I bring for them to drink?
Thanks for all the good info -will post photos and stuff when we get back.




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[*] posted on 12-1-2008 at 07:49 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Santiago, here are the GPS waypoints from my GPS web page that cover the road... north to south... change you GPS map datum from the factory setting of WGS84 to NAD27 Mexico. This is so the waypoints can be plotted on the Mexican topo maps (Baja Almanac).

L.A. Bay South to Hwy. 1

Diaz' at L.A. Bay: 28°56.76'/ 113°33.51'

Camp Gecko: 28°54.04'/ 113°31.69'

Las Flores: 28°49.08'/ 113°31.73'

Terminal Canyon Trail head: 28°44.44'/ 113°32.77'

Jcn. Old Rd. (south turn for next 4 waypoints): 28°40.72'/ 113°25.41'
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rancho Paredones road east: 28°36.80'/ 113°24.55'

La Bocana/San Pedro Jcn: 28°28.39'/ 113°23.43'

Trail south to Tinaja Sta. Maria: 28°28.00'/ 113°20.42'

Tinaja Santa Maria: 28°26.07'/ 113°19.99'
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Bahia Las Animas Rd. (N): 28°40.52'/ 113°21.72', Las Animas: 28°48.57'/ 113°21.34'

Bahia San Rafael Jcn: 28°34.78'/ 113°07.41'

Jcn. Old Rd. (south end): 28°26.05'/ 113°10.41'

Jcn. Old El Arco Rd. (go east): 28°20.77'/ 113°01.82'

Jcn. New Rds. (east to S. Francisquito, south to El Barril or Hwy.1): 28°21.08'/ 113°00.33'

Jcn. at El Progreso (south to El Barril, west to Hwy.1): 28°20.58'/ 113°00.33'

Top of Cuesta de la Ley: 28°17.71'/ 113°06.14'

Fork, ahead/west for El Arco, turn left/south for new road to Hwy.1: 28°10.42'/ 113°13.08'

Crossroad, south to state border and Hwy.1, east to Mision Sta. Gertrudis (& next 3 waypoints): 28°01.45'/ 113°14.45'
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Rancho Miraflores: 28°01.45'/ 113°13.76'

Rancho Guadalupe: 28°02.36'/ 113°09.33'

Mision Santa Gertrudis: 28°03.95'/ 113°05.05'
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State Border, Mountain Time Zone: 28°00.00'/ 113°16.16'

Guillermo Prieto: 27°50.62'/ 113°17.84'

'T' Jcn., turn west: 27°49.97'/ 113°17.94'

Hwy. 1 Jcn. (south-east to Vizcaino): 27°43.41'/ 113°27.23'

I see no waypoints for "Soldiers jump out of bushes" :lol:




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