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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 02:35 PM


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And now back to the really strange painting...

On second thought I think that may be the child that she and Diego lost. She wanted a child badly, but couldn't carry a baby to term. It makes more sense that she is holding Diego's lost son in this painting, and not Diego.

My hijack is finished now Roger, Thank you for the use of your thread:biggrin:


No...I think we will let Iflyfish continue his hijack...I got bored anyway.

Actually, Paula, you should both continue...more interesting than a weed. ;) and more to the point, I need to get some fishing tackle ready for manana!




[Edited on 12-2-2008 by Pompano]




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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 02:56 PM


Pomp and circumstances

No more here, just wanted to share the info on the painting by this wonderful Mexican artist.

There are plants in the picture too.....ok, it's a stretch

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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 03:55 PM


That was an interesting link, Iflyfish. I had found the image on Google, and didn't take time to study it much. It is one that I don't remember seeing before, and I thought I must have seen most of her paintings by now, as I've read much about her. And yes, the planting of herself was a stretch-- just an off the cuff reply to a tongue in cheek question. :D



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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:01 PM


Paula

Your original observation regarding Diego/baby/still births are very much a part of her world, a very tortured world in which her body fails her and she is forced to focus her attention on her tortured interior drama. Fascinating images here, god/ess/man/universe/earth/life/death/rebirth/the third eye of consciousness on Diego's head, her ongoing preoccupation. Artists can offer us a unique insight into our deepest fantacies/fears/hopes/dreams and Kahlo lived there.

Thanks for posting this fascinating image, one of many she produced. Thanks to Pompano for sanctioning further discussion. His plant/
dead plant/ live puppy/ beer cap recepticle has produced some rather interesting speculation on it's own right. Who planted the seed? Why did the plant suicide? Why is that puppy looking so guilty? Am I projecting guilt on the puppy.....it's endless.

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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:05 PM


Just saw this thread or I would have jumped in to help hijack it a lot earlier!!! Maybe we should have a Frida Kahlo thread! Paula, I think her polio was as much formative as the bus accident. There is another painting called "Roots (The Pedregal)" that actually shows plants growing through her body...and, how about tying it back in with this...the vine looks a lot like Pompano's original photo!
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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:09 PM


Here is a link to her work so we can see which paintings you are discussing.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html

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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:10 PM


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Why did the plant suicide? Why is that puppy looking so guilty? Am I projecting guilt on the puppy.....it's endless.

Iflyfish


It may not have been suicide...it might have been murder...hence, guilty looking puppy...or maybe just negligence, but was it Pompano's negligence, or someone else's...there might be a clue in the dead plant photo, or even a Kahlo painting...does Paula know more than she's saying?

Oh, hell, you're right, it's endless.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:10 PM
Another point of view


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A bus accident? I thought she was run over by a truck. I havn't read much at all about her. My opinion of any artist is formed by their art alone and, even a Rorschach ink blot could be considered art if the clinical application were kept out of it. They lose the artful interpretation when their purpose is known.
I see Kahlo in the same light. If empathy for her crumpled condition is necessary to understand her work, then her work becomes a clinical statement. A testimony to her well-being. A chart hanging on the end of a hospital bed. Seeing her art without reading the program is, for me, uninspiring and uncomfortable. Almost assaultive. I ask myself why I was subjected to this.
I think she was born too early to fully realize her potential. She would have gone a long way airbrushing motorcycle gas tanks.

Just my opinion, of course.


Where is Dennis anyway? I miss that guy. At times he would come up with zingers like this and you realized just how sharp he really is.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:15 PM


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Here is a link to her work so we can see which paintings you are discussing.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html

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Thanks for the link...I just looked at it and was astonished at the price that Sothebys got...$5,616,000. Apparently a record.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:48 PM


Let's really hijack this and add these guys. I think one or both went outside and relieved their bladders into the pot.





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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:54 PM


cunfuzin' and amuzin'



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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:57 PM


Judging from the speed of the demise I would assume both. Now that is even more painful than an entire gallery of Kahlo!

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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 05:59 PM


Didn't realize Dennis was an art critic....missed that...and him...where are you when we need you Dennis?

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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 07:22 PM


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Why did the plant suicide? Why is that puppy looking so guilty? Am I projecting guilt on the puppy.....it's endless.

Iflyfish


It may not have been suicide...it might have been murder...hence, guilty looking puppy...or maybe just negligence, but was it Pompano's negligence, or someone else's...there might be a clue in the dead plant photo, or even a Kahlo painting...does Paula know more than she's saying?


Elizabeth, while I generally know less than I am saying, I'm sure that innocent little puppy meant no harm. Pedregal would have been the perfect image here, but I was hurrying and chose impulsively. And the polio was certainly the more painful thing.

Igor, you are very good at digging up the past! Dennis really p#$$ed me off in that post, bless his heart. I miss his posts too. Maybe Bajabound knows where he's been?

Roger, Have a great day fishing!



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Edit: I usually think outside the box-- so how did I post inside the box?

[Edited on 12-3-2008 by Paula]




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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 07:48 PM


Are we still on hijacking mode?:biggrin:
Last month I purchased Frieda's cookbook on Amazon. What a work of art:bounce:
The recipes are old country Mexico (I originally bought it when her name was mentioned about the recipe of the red-white-green rice on another Nomad thread).
The rest of the recipes are also unbelievable!




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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 08:14 PM


Unbelievable, like this thread, but did they taste good or just make you feel wretched? Did you know she had a fling with Trotsky before he got a splitting head acke?

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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 08:57 PM


Wow, this has become a strange thread between the time I got on BART to the time I got home. ... and I feel partly responsible.

For the sake of completeness, I find Frida fascinating as a person but her 'art' does nothing for me. I will stop at that because many of the people I like on this board have expressed so much admiration for it.

P.S. I also believe that any artist who invokes strong feelings of disagreement in people often has something important to say.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2008 at 12:35 AM


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Here is a link to her work so we can see which paintings you are discussing.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html

Iflyfish


This is a fun and timely hijack. Just this afternoon I treated myself to a print of her "Naturaleza Muerta de Loro y Fruta" "Still Life of Parrot and Fruit". You can see it on page 6 of Gallery of Paintings by Title. Enjoy her happier works.
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[*] posted on 12-3-2008 at 09:55 AM


Mulegena

Nice, beautiful colors and wonderful the way she opens up the fruit in visually interesting ways. The missing seeds get me thinking about the parrot and the seeds. The parrot looks innocent enough....but??

I wonder if others would share their favorite Kahlo painting with us and talk about why that one moved you.

I like Moses
http://www.fridakahlofans.com/c0490x.html
for its complexity and beauty. It says so much about the process of life from its conception through death and the myriad possibilities of how we can manifest life. The painting is both awe inspiring and disturbing, like life. She is clearly grounded and focused on the female anatomy as the source of life and birth, the juxtaposition of the anatomical with the political is really remarkable to me. The miracle of life within both physical and spiritual. It is remarkable to me how she allows her deepest fantasies and images to emerge through her very autobiographical work. I think SkipJack got it right, if it is powerful enough to evoke strong feelings in us then it is great art.

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[*] posted on 12-3-2008 at 09:57 AM


Frida Kahlo killed my plant, I laughed out loud and slapped my thighs. Good one!

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