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fourninerpapa
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Display of Mexican flag
We were told it is illegal for a non Mexican national to fly the Mexican flag.
We fly the flag on our palapa. We got information second hand that a fellow Gringo was told by the military to lower their flag or face a fine.
I could find nothing on the internet to confirm this.
Can anyone enlighten me as to the law?
Norm
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DENNIS
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There are regulations concerning the flag, how and when it's to be displayed. In fact, there's an agency in DF that is responsible for national
icons and their use. We in the states fly our colors without restriction. It's one of our guarantees. Not so in Mexico. You'll notice the street
vendors go into the flag business around Independance Day when the flag is broadly displayed but, then they seem to vanish.
I have an article on this subject and I think I know where it is. I'll find it and be back with details.
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fdt
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Article 32 of the "Ley sobre el escudo, la bandera y el himno nacional " say you can, with due respect show a flag at your'e home, youre car or work
place.
http://www.ordenjuridico.gob.mx/Federal/PE/PR/Leyes/08021984...
Now in order to get fined, you would have to do what Paulina Rubio did
[Edited on 12-30-2008 by BajaNomad]
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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vandenberg
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At one time my wife made up some business cards with the flags of Holland (me), Canada (her) and Mexico on them.
Handing one in La Paz to an immigration official, she was called on it and told that this was a NoNo.
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Tomas Tierra
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Its a grand 'ol flag
how about when making Ceviche???
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Pompano
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On the water.
If flying flags aboard your boat or ship, always fly the host nation flag uppermost as a courtesy and respect.
Flying a palapa flag in the early 70's was okay here...at least nobody complained when I flew this ND flag...followed by bra and panties.
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But nowadays it's is a whole different attitude and ballgame. I would not fly one until provided with a legal ruling from your local
authorities...and a national one to boot.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
...followed by bra and panties.
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"I pledge allegiance to........"
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biglar
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It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. For many years it's been my understanding - in Canada and in the U.S. - that if visiting a country it
is correct to display that country's flag at the top of the mast and your home country's flag beneath it. I'd be amazed if Mexico's policy is
different. I believe the main thing is displaying the courtesy to your hosts. I can't conceive of anyone being upset because their flag was
displayed in a correct & courteous manner.
Lar.
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Pompano
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Lar...it's common practice in Mexican waters..and most ports on the globe.
An exception... wartime zones. The wrong flag there could get you in deep trouble and win you a Stoopid Award.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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David K
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I recall reading that unlike the American flag (which belongs to the people), the Mexican flag belongs to the 'government' and flys only above
government installations (not on private flagpoles).
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Dave
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Curious
| Quote: | Originally posted by fourninerpapa
We were told it is illegal for a non Mexican national to fly the Mexican flag.
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Why would a U.S. citizen fly a foreign flag? Could never quite figure that out. 
Here's a question:
Could you display an American flag on your palapa? 
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David K
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Dave, out of respect or admiration of the host country they have made a second home? Perhaps the respect of flying a national flag that we do here in
the USA, is just a natural thing for some gringos to do when moving to Mexico... unaware of the law about Mexican flag display...?
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DENNIS
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OK...Found the article which led me on a search to find it in archives and came across a partial rendition of the original:
http://vivirlatino.com/2005/10/13/ab-y-la-bandera.php
The original article, dated Oct.9, 2005, San Diego Union, by Susan Ferriss added a story about Luis Miguel a mega star around the world, being
instructd to remove a Mexican flag from an album cover.
Another, a popular Mariachi being fined $45 for "muffing" the national anthem at a futbol game.
One more...A popular poet, sin nombre, who could face jail time for violating the honor of the flag by writing a poem about cleaning up urine with
it.
There is no freedom of speech in Mexico when the subject is the Mexican flag which makes me ask why it is marketed as a novelty symbol. Like so many
other infractions in Mexico, it seems to be an end-user responsibility or the person who is more accessable to fine.
Who knows? Mexico Mystery #62,045.
Sorry I can't scan and print this article...don't know how. Anyway, it's probably illegal.
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Woooosh
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When they change the Mexican flag from having an Eagle to a Chicken on it - I'll fly it.
I collect and fly historical USA flags- two at a time. The American flag always flies. I keep my neighbors guessing (and probably doing internet
searches) to figure out what flag I'm flying in addition to the American flag. Nothing wrong with a history lesson now and then...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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There are restrictions on flying the US flag. At night it must be illuminated. It must not be flown if damaged. It is customary to fly national flags
at the same height. The US flag, at least in US territory or on US vessels, must never be flown lower than another countries flap. I don't have it
handy but there is a web site, maybe many, that have the rules for flying the US flag.
Here is one site:
http://www.ushistory.org/BETSY/flagetiq.html
[Edited on 12-28-2008 by TW]
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Jack Swords
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I am a non-Mexican and have a Mexican flag flying from the starboard side of my mast on my sailboat as I write this. When I look around, most boats
in Marina de la Paz are owned by non-Mexicans and also fly the Mexican flag. The Mexican boat does not. In fact, the port captain has visited the
marina in the past and wanted all boats to fly the flag and the tattered ones replaced. Those boats flying another country's flag have it beneath the
Mexican flag or on the port side of the mast (sail boats).
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Dave
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No restrictions...
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
There are restrictions on flying the US flag. |
Just suggestions. So sayeth the Supremes
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
There are restrictions on flying the US flag. |
Just suggestions. So sayeth the Supremes
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You can even burn it if you want to. Your freedom of speech is a right.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You can even burn it if you want to. Your freedom of speech is a right. |
Not in front of me!!!!
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
There are restrictions on flying the US flag. |
Just suggestions. So sayeth the Supremes
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You can even burn it if you want to. Your freedom of speech is a right. |
That is correct. They are not laws. It is common to see Mexican and American flags on race vehicles.
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