susanna
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Shooting in Mexico City
Just heard on the news about a shooting at a TV studio in Mexico by drug cartel.Has anyone heard about it?
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Ken Cooke
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Google News - Mexico
Here is what I turned up:
Encuentran auto y arma cerca de Televisa Monterrey
El auto, un Pontiac rojo modelo Trans Am con placas Z37 CRB, del estado de Texas, fue abandonado con las puertas abiertas y el arma en el asiento
trasero, en las calles de Aramberri y Serafín Mendoza
A car turned up in Monterrey, Mexico that came originally from Texas that was packed with arms. It was a red Pontiac Trans Am. The car was abandoned
with open doors and the gun on the seat.
That's everything posted to Google News Mexico as of 4:30 p.m. PST
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Mango
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Actually, the attack took place on a TV station in Monterrey, Mexico. It's nowhere near Mexico City; but, the US press has no idea about geography
and most AP news reports come out of DF(Mexico City) for anything that happens in Mexico, including stories from Baja.
Nothing new, it's sad. Bullets are flying.. but in the wrong direction IMO.
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MONTERREY, Mexico — Masked gunmen opened fire and tossed a grenade at a Mexican television station as it aired its nightly newscast Tuesday, leaving
behind a message warning the station about its coverage of drug gangs.
No injuries were reported in the assault on the Televisa network's studio in the northern city of Monterrey. It was the latest in a series of attacks
on journalists covering drug cartels in Mexico.
Televisa Monterrey director Francisco Cobo said the masked gunmen arrived in two pickup trucks and opened fire during the station's evening newscast.
Two news anchors asked for police help on the air.
The assailants left a message outside the station that read: "Stop reporting only about us, also report about the narco-officials. This is a warning,"
Cobo told the El Universal newspaper.
The attack comes as drug cartels wage bloody battles over turf and smuggling routes. The gangs have been known to kill journalists who report drug
violence.
Officials say at least 5,300 people died in Mexico in drug-related slayings in 2008.
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Woooosh
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Mexico WAS the second most dangerous country in the world for Journalists. Maybe it's number one today. The narcos love the narco corridos- the
actual news stories about their grisly actions... not so much.
[Edited on 1-8-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
the attack took place on a TV station in Monterrey, Mexico. It's nowhere near Mexico City; but, the US press has no idea about geography.
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Neither do these postings. This is a Baja site.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
the attack took place on a TV station in Monterrey, Mexico. It's nowhere near Mexico City; but, the US press has no idea about geography.
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Neither do these postings. This is a Baja site. |
I posted for clarification; however, Baja is part of Mexico.
Baja is just like the wheel that is attached to your Mexican car. The engine might run great; but, if you have a flat tire....
Narco violence and violence against the press is a national issue. Baja is part of the nation of Mexico. Welcome to reality.
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wakemall
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Here we go again...
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susanna
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You said it Mango, Thanks !
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mango
the attack took place on a TV station in Monterrey, Mexico. It's nowhere near Mexico City; but, the US press has no idea about geography.
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Neither do these postings. This is a Baja site. |
I posted for clarification; however, Baja is part of Mexico.
Baja is just like the wheel that is attached to your Mexican car. The engine might run great; but, if you have a flat tire....
Narco violence and violence against the press is a national issue. Baja is part of the nation of Mexico. Welcome to reality.
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In WWII no one acted or cared initially because what was happening wasn't to them, wasn't next door or didn't directly impact them. By the time it did
impact them- it was too late. Learn from history.
You don't want to end up like this lady...
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/07/security.expert.kidn...
[Edited on 1-8-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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The Gull
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Mexico is part of the world. The Middle East is part of the World. There are killings by the score happening in the Middle East, every day.
Therefore posting events of the Middle East on a Baja site is consistent thinking. Wake up people - the world's society is crumbling.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Mexico is part of the world. The Middle East is part of the World. There are killings by the score happening in the Middle East, every day.
Therefore posting events of the Middle East on a Baja site is consistent thinking. Wake up people - the world's society is crumbling.
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I don't deny what you say. However, It's Baja California, Mexico. Not Baja California, World.
Nonetheless, I found the news interesting and relevant. I didn't see it as inappropriate or any more off topic than most of the stuff posted around
here.
To go back to my car analogy, this article is talking about the car many of us are riding in,(Mexico) and problems with it, not the
broken cart in the Middle East(world).
According to some reports over 5400 people died in Mexico last year due to drug related violence. This violence impacts all of Mexico. The actions
that Mexico's legislators and people take or do not take will have an impact on Baja.
Yes, some laws in Mexico affect rest the world as well; but, some here clearly have problems understanding how laws and events within Mexico affect
states within the nation of Mexico.. so lets just keep it simple.
Your issue with the appropriateness and relevancy of this tread is essentially of your own creation and you have indeed mastered the subject.
Congratulations.
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The Gull
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This thread, like others, suffers from the mentality of "what I have to say is important and if that other Nomad doesn't agree with me, I must
attack".
My point is simple, this is a Baja site. It is a fact of the board, not my opinion.
To disagree without being disagreeable is difficult for some. Making one's point without openly demeaning or ridiculing the other's position takes
restraint.
Doug has already removed from this thread, the most offensive posts of a personal attack.
[Edited on 1-8-2009 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Bajajorge
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Sounds like the daily occurances in Los Angeles. 
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Bajahowodd
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Los Angeles, BC? BCS?
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
This thread, like others, suffers from the mentality of "what I have to say is important and if that other Nomad doesn't agree with me, I must
attack".
My point is simple, this is a Baja site. It is a fact of the board, not my opinion.
To disagree without being disagreeable is difficult for some. Making one's point without openly demeaning or ridiculing the other's position takes
restraint.
Doug has already removed from this thread, the most offensive posts of a personal attack.
[Edited on 1-8-2009 by The Gull] |
I see your point. However; Baja is part of Mexico and thus this story has relevance nationwide since it is now an national/international news story.
This is an issue important to all Mexicans, no mater what state they live in.
You were the one that took this thread off topic from what was being discussed when you interjected your comment and insistence that it is off topic.
I do not intend ill will upon you, nor do I intend to back down from my position that your talk of semantics is silly and we would all be better off
discussing the real issue which I do feel is relevant.
Yes, it's just a difference of opinion. I apologize to you if you have felt demeaned or ridiculed by anything written. My intent has been to discuss
the issue brought up in the original post.
If you feel the tread is off topic feel free to use the report button or become a moderator. When you attack or dismiss other peoples opinions
because they don't mesh with what you feel is "on topic" don't be surprised when others attack or dismiss you back.
Some would rather discuss classification processes or semantics vs. the issue being discussed. I hope you are able to spend some time discussing Baja
today, possibly in another thread if this one does not suit your fancy. Have a good day.
edited for syntax
[Edited on 1-8-2009 by Mango]
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The Gull
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by MangoYou were the one that took this thread off topic from what was being discussed when you interjected your comment
and insistence that it is off topic. |
If you plan to continue making assertions on the main board that are false regarding another Nomad have the sense to use U2U.
I did not interject a comment that insisted that it is off topic. Please supply me the link to the posting on this thread
where those words were posted by me or supply me with a retraction.
[Edited on 1-9-2009 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Neither do these postings. This is a Baja site. |
I've already apologized publicly if I upset you. Don't worry, I don't expect so much from you in return. I know better.
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I for one find these posts useful as I plan travel to Mexico that includes Baja. There are ferries form Santa Rosalia and La Paz that connect Baja
with the mainland in addition to the land route.
There seems to me to be a pattern to the violence and following these posts allows one to get some sense of which areas are the focus of violence and
which are relatively safe. I appreciate knowing about these incidents, particularly those that involve hand granades, which are of even greater
significance than bullits or automatic weapons. The use of hand granades indicates a level of escalation to this reader. I am waiting for the rocket
propelled granades. I have not yet read of the use of hand granades in Baja, but I can tell you that this Nomad doesn't go where they are being used.
The use of hand granades itentifies the area as a war zone to this writer.
Iflyfish
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