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[*] posted on 1-12-2009 at 11:06 PM
Dog Attack---?????


Does anyone have experience with what to do about a dog (pitbull owned by gringos) in a RV Park in Baja, that has repeatedly attacked (jumpes over it's railing) other dogs on leash and has now bitten another gringo (me :fire:) when I kept my pup (Chaco, on leash 50 ft from their palapa) from it?

If a gringo beats the crap outta another gringo do the cops care?
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 12:26 AM


IMO - Pit Bulls are like guns. There is nothing wrong with guns or Pit Bulls; but, I wouldn't just leave either in my front yard unattended. Something bad can happen. Both guns and Pit Bulls require care, attention, supervision, and are best locked away from the public. Both also help protect the home. Both have immense power and require responsibility on the owners part or somebody will get hurt.

Did you try talking with the the dog owner and telling him about what his dog has done? Tell him to chain him or get a better fence or you will be forced to protect yourself with your machete next time.

Or..

If the owner is an unresponsive a hole.. then..

Goto the store.. get a nice big steak....

Entice said dog with steak.. throw steak in car trunk..close trunk

Then go for a long drive into the desert. <cough><cough>


I like cats; but, I don't have a Siberian Tiger running free in the neighborhood either. If the owner does not take responsibility for his loose cannon, I see nothing wrong with taking care of the problem before some 8 year old gets his face eaten off.

Yeah.. what I said sounds brutal. But I've been bitten and attacked by pit bulls before. They can be sweet, sure.. I've also heard the same thing about Charles Manson. If I saw that a neighbor was leaving a loaded firearm on his front lawn, I'd make sure something was done about it.
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 03:57 AM


Get in the dog owner's face before the dog gets in yours... call the cops... get it documented... insist on action. Pit bulls are dangerous and can be mean.



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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 06:14 AM


What's the RV Park owner/manager say? I'm sure that the neighbors feel as you do and if all or some of you confront the owner of the dog and the RV management and work with the ideas above you'll find a solution. We have had and do have problem owners here and eventually it all gets sorted out. Hope you problem dog owner is straightened out sooner rather than eventually. good luck ~~~ Russ
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 06:22 AM


Do this immediately: take photos of your injuries; write down what happened-- date, time, historical narrative; ask any witness to do the same; go to the doctor or clinic and establish a medical record of the injury; speak with your neighbor about the situation; speak with the board of directors of your community, if there is any; make a police report. Follow up with a formal complaint with the local police department if you feel it is warranted.
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 07:32 AM


I don't know where this happened, but I was bitten in La Paz. I went to the police and then to the Health department. La Paz does have an animal control person and a truck. I filed a complaint, the truck came out to the residence and required that the dog be kept fenced in for a month. They assured me that after a month the dog would be gone. It was. My butt, where I was bitten, is the same height as a child's face. Most street dogs respond to bending down like you are going to pick up a rock by leaving you alone. We walk with our small dog and it seems to be a bait for loose dogs. Do contact authorities, in La Paz they were great!
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 08:22 AM


thefishaholic first of all, keep your bite wound open, unbandaged to let it drain naturally. Even after going to ER & getting prompt medical treatment, my bite wounds (pit bull) became infected. You should talk with the owner & demand to know if the animal that bit you is current on it's rabies shots & if you haven't had a tetanus shot shot in the past few years, you should get one.

Even if the owners are willing to do something to effectively restrain their dog, AND even if they're willing to reimburse your medical costs, I'd go to local authorities & file a complaint. The only problem with Mango's suggestion of a long drive out into the desert is that the animal remains alive to attack again....unless the (cough, cough) was covering up the sound of gunfire.

I'm an animal lover, but if the owners don't act responsibly & the local authorities don't/won't take care of the situation to your satisfaction....a vicious animal is the only animal I'd take matters into my own hands....I'd "season" the meat before tossing it over their fence.

I had a rescued beach dog from the time she was about 4-6 weeks old, who once she reach about 75 pounds would make unprovoked attacks on my smaller dog older dog. When working with her with didn't bring about the changes I'd hope for, I looked for a remote ranch with no children to give her to as an only dog, when that wasn't successful, I took her in & had her put to sleep. Mexican friends told me I had no right to end her life, but I felt that putting her down was more responsible then turning her loose to fend for herself & very likely attack other animals & people.
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 08:49 AM


First, shoot the dog. Then, shoot the owner.
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 08:55 AM


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First, shoot the dog. Then, shoot the owner.


Rather drastic, but effective.:biggrin:

Run like hell afterwards.:P:P




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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 09:03 AM


A pit bull running loose in our neighborhood kept barking furiously and threatenly at my neighbor as he worked in his yard--------after talking to the owner nothing changed--------my neighbor shot the dog the next time it happened.

End of story.

Welcome to Redding, CA. :o

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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 09:58 AM


Has anyone had personal experience using one of the sprays used to repel dogs? I can see it discouraging a dog that's just bluffing, but how about a dog that is really focused on attacking and doesn't seem to be deterred as much by pain, such as a fighting dog?



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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 10:11 AM


Don't know about the sprays specifically, but I DO know not to use an electric training collar on a dog that's mid-attack, it only makes them more vicious. So I'd tend to believe any outside irritant would have the same effect once they have their "prey". Unless it was like a can of wasp spray, something with a 15-20' range, I'm not sticking around to find out how they react....unless I just happen to have a baseball bat with me!
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 10:16 AM


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Has anyone had personal experience using one of the sprays used to repel dogs? I can see it discouraging a dog that's just bluffing, but how about a dog that is really focused on attacking and doesn't seem to be deterred as much by pain, such as a fighting dog?


They make sprays that will stop a bear so I would imagine they would stop a dog.
Pepper spray is readily available and Wasp spray is at your Home Depot etc..
The best spray available comes from the end of a shotgun.
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 10:20 AM
All purpose repellent


I keep a can of Wasp spray in my home,car, motorhome and in my backpack when hiking with my dog.

Range 20-25', trust me it works very well!!!!!!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 10:38 AM


Ditto on Wasp Spray.

I carry a hand held high pitched sound device that distracts dogs when they start to escalate their barking. The closest you can get to the first bark the better. It works if I stay at it and make the noice each and every time the dog starts to bark. It seems to confuse and defuse their escalation. These are available online for about twenty bucks.

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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 10:58 AM


"wasp spray" seems like a horrible way to go-------it is incredibly painful, and is a poison and could kill the animal rendering a painful slow death, or blindness.

Shooting the dog is much more humane, it seems to me. (???)

We carry Pepper spray, and it seems to work well.

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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 11:04 AM


Pepper Spray is the way to go. Can even be used on the offending dogs owner when they come over to complain...

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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 12:21 PM


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First, shoot the dog. Then, shoot the owner.


Yup. Bad dogs have bad dog owers.

The only way to get a pit bull to release it's grip is to stick a finger up it's poop chute. I know it sounds gross- but if you're little dog is init's mouthand being devoured - you'd do anything.

After that- A pice of chicken with an injection of anti-freeze should do the trick and is the Mexican method. No more bad pit bull. If the dog shares the chicken with it's owner- even better--- saves two bullets.




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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 12:23 PM


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Do this immediately: take photos of your injuries; write down what happened-- date, time, historical narrative; ask any witness to do the same; go to the doctor or clinic and establish a medical record of the injury; speak with your neighbor about the situation; speak with the board of directors of your community, if there is any; make a police report. Follow up with a formal complaint with the local police department if you feel it is warranted.


My sister in law had her leg ripped open by a bad dog while walking around the block near our house. She went to the doctor and then took the bill to the people and they paid it. They didn't do anythng about the dog though- a policeman owns it.




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[*] posted on 1-13-2009 at 12:34 PM


Reading your suggestion on the "finger up the butt" technique reminded me of a slightly different approach I saw used years ago when living in Argentina. There is a breed there called "dogo" (pronounced "dough-go") and one of these dogos had his terrier on the ground in a death grip. My neighbor just reached back, grabbed the dog by the gonads, giving them a hard, quick squeeze, twist and pull. The dogo immediately released his terrier and seemed to have a particularly difficult time putting any weight on his back legs after that. However he did seem to be still rather ticked off...



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