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Bajahowodd
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Woody- What company might that be? Have to admit I always buy over the internet just before I leave, and only print the Dec page.
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woody with a view
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Martyman
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The official in Ensenada is a well documented jerk. Avoid getting your papers in Ensenada at all costs. It will take 2-3 hours minimum and cost more.
Yes, he is probably lining his pocket
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David K
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The people in Baja say 7 days, in the border zone, no FM-T... but I have not yet seen official Mexican papers that give any change from the 72 hours.
The Baja state tourism people also have said the entire state of Baja California (norte) is in the 'border zone'! Yet, the federal government has yet
to produce a new rule saying anything other than Maneadero on the Pacific and San Felipe on the Gulf... sometimes it only says Mexicali!
Can someone who is good at finding links to Mexican Government (INM) web sites find a federal document that clearly states the max. days and the
southern edge of the 'border zone'... when an FM-T is required to be 'legal'?
Many thanks!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
The official in Ensenada is a well documented jerk. Avoid getting your papers in Ensenada at all costs. It will take 2-3 hours minimum and cost more.
Yes, he is probably lining his pocket |
So true. The office in Ensenada is one of the most inhospitible places in Mexico. Their damage to the image of Mexico has been profound and I can't
understand why it's allowed to go on. Their well earned reputation is just plain mean.
OK....Just to avoid conflict here, I'm generalizing. I know some have had good experiences there but, whether they know it or not, they are a
minority.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNuts
I drove through TJ, overnight at GN, and kept driving all the way to La Paz. Arrived in La Paz Thursday evening. Saturday afternoon someone
mentioned FMT or similar, which I hadn't even considered! Monday morning I was at the immigration office on the malecon for my 6 month tourist
papers. I'm pretty sure I didn't get any fines for not getting it at the border. Maybe because I could have come off a boat or who knows what.
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I have to jump in and add my two cents about the La Paz Immigration office ....
I have delt with them on several occasions and have found them to be helpful and nice !!
The last time in to renew my FM3 the lady agent pointed to each line on the declaration and told me what to print ....
Good Guest Service
CaboRon
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Bajahowodd
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They're just happy to be in La Paz.
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BajaGeoff
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
FYI
my insurance states that failure to obtain a valid tourist visa will void insurance if involved in a wreck where you are required to have an FMT.....
one more pato for the row...... |
This rule is true for most of the Mexican insurance underwriters. Basically, if you are in Mexico without proper paperwork, you are technically in the
country illegally.
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Bajahowodd
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That's very important to know. anyone traveling South of Maneadero better have one. It may be a hassle or there may be a fine, if you wait until
Guerrero Negro or beyond. But without one, you are SOL if you have an accident South of Maneadero.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGeoff
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
FYI
my insurance states that failure to obtain a valid tourist visa will void insurance if involved in a wreck where you are required to have an FMT.....
one more pato for the row...... |
This rule is true for most of the Mexican insurance underwriters. Basically, if you are in Mexico without proper paperwork, you are technically in the
country illegally. |
Geoff, could you please contact you carrier and verify WHERE in Baja they want us to have an FM-T (ie. south of Maneadero or south of the Eagle
Monument) and WHEN they want us to have one (anywhere in Mexico, even TJ)... ie after 72 hours or after 7 days.
Because you are (they are) saying even though we payed for coverage, they will deny it on a bureaucratic paperwork question...?
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robrt8
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Lewis & Lewis are brokers. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think they sell Qualitas:
http://www.qualitas.com.mx/aing_producto01.html
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robrt8
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Requirement #1 is a valid permit.
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BajaGeoff
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We have been told that the FM-T requirement for our insurance is whenever you go south of Maneadero, or when you are planning to be in the country for
more than 72 hours.
Several things will get a claim denied all because they are illegal: driving drunk, driving under the influence of drugs, and being in the country
without proper paperwork.
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David K
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That pretty well is what I have been saying all these years... TRAVEL SOUTH OF MANEADERO / SYAY IN MEXICO (anywhere in Mexico) OVER 72 HRS.
Thanks Geoff...
By-the-way, do they specify Mexicali or San Felipe for the east side of Baja as requiring an FM-T south of?
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BajaGeoff
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San Felipe is the end of the "tourist zone" on the east side. You need an FM-T to go further south.
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EnseNADAslim
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Just to add to the re-hashing of this Thread, yes, get the FM-T when crossing the boarder, and we can't knock the guys handing them out and if you
look at the form they give you it is made to accept your PASSPORT # not your drivers license. The US Passport just makes it easy all the way around.
Take what is legal in the US and throw it out the window, you are entering a foreign country, so give them what they need (US passport) and help the
process move along.
It's amazing how friendly people can be when you play by their rules,,,,well, yea, Mexico, that can be hard to do as they don't often know the rules
themselves... Stay away from Ensenada immigration at all cost---yea, they can be difficult to work with if they wake up on the wrong side of the bed,
and for many of them it's every day. Wheeeeeee Now go have fun
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