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Kgryfon
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Status of Los Arcos in La Paz?
Anyone know what's going on with the Los Arcos Hotel in LA Paz? I know they went on strike and closed it, but something on their website says to come
back in April - does that mean they are re-opening in April, or are they just being optimistic? Thanks!
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gnukid
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There was an article in the paper this week...
http://www.tribunadeloscabos.com.mx/newpage/index.cfm?op=por...
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n1006807.htm
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The strikers were entrenched in front of the hotel with tables & marquee tents the other day.
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Basically, the owner says there is no agreement yet with the workers. The "crisis" has caused a division between what is reasonable and what the
workers would like so there is nothing the owner can do but wait for the workers to come to an agreement which would lower their bonuses. There are
signs of discussion with hope for an agreement, though it will remain to be seen whether they make an "acuerdo" or not and whether the agreement
serves to satisfy them over the changing crisis which is just now hitting Baja's economy. Suddenly everyone is talking about a lack of work and less
expenditures though I see plenty of people out and about and building still just the big projects have slowed to a crawl or stopped. Good restaurants
and hotels are still full and some are expanding.
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Alberto Coppola announced they will be closing Los Arcos permanently as no agreement was reached with the striking employees. On friday employees will
start to collect theire final check.
It's sad to see that this icon of the city is closing for good.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n1025002.htm
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If they decide to sell it I hope they new owner doesn't turn it into condos
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaDove
If they decide to sell it I hope they new owner doesn't turn it into condos |
It would really be ugly to have the time share hustlers on the Malecon of La Paz ...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Alberto Coppola announced they will be closing Los Arcos permanently as no agreement was reached with the striking employees. On friday employees will
start to collect theire final check.
It's sad to see that this icon of the city is closing for good.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n1025002.htm |
Perhaps they will close the business, pay the employees their final checks and then re-open under a new name or ownership ?
I've seen this done when employee demands become unreasonable.
Maybe they'll even remodel before re-opening ? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Perhaps they will close the business, pay the employees their final checks and then re-open under a new name or ownership ?
I've seen this done when employee demands become unreasonable.
Maybe they'll even remodel before re-opening ? |
Could be, and it could still be the same owner, same name just a diferent corporate name.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
Perhaps they will close the business, pay the employees their final checks and then re-open under a new name or ownership ?
I've seen this done when employee demands become unreasonable.
Maybe they'll even remodel before re-opening ? |
Could be, and it could still be the same owner, same name just a diferent corporate name. |
That's how Dimitri opened Nuevo La Fonda.
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marooons Are Governing America
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This is strange, they have ordered new furniture from a local designer and told him they plan to open in March.
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I'm guessing that we'll see more of this type of action. The article mentions the economic crisis. Hotel occupancy rates are down, and will continue
to be so for the foreseeable future. Labor is the obvious target in such times. But, is it not better to have a job, even at lower wages, than to have
no job?
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Apparently Alberto Coppola also owns the Hotel Finisterra in Cabo San Lucas. I wonder how business is there? That might be influencing some of his
decisions regard the Los Arcos.
Striking during an economic downturn is not usually the best move. The workers don't have as much bargaining advantage if the business isn't in a
profitable cycle and the owners aren't really losing much. I think the workers would be pushing their union for a settlement sooner, rather than
later.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
Apparently Alberto Coppola also owns the Hotel Finisterra in Cabo San Lucas. |
You can check out the senators page here ;
http://www.luiscoppola.com/
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Senator Coppola, a member of Calderone's PAN party introduced legislation in 2007 to remove restrictions on direct ownership of coastal land by
foreigners. Didn't fly. Maybe with a sustained economic downturn, it will be reconsidered.
As for BMG's post, I have no doubt that the Finesterra carries much more meaning to Coppola. Recall the original hotel on the hill? When they plopped
that eight story building on the beach, they were in the time share business. Hundreds of rooms paid for in advance. Time share occupancy will
certainly hold up better than straight hotel occupancy during an economic downturn. And they just spent a bundle upgrading the Marina view rooms of
the original hotel. Los Arcos has a special meaning for folks in and around La Paz. But, for coppola, the big fish is down at land's end.
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Best parts of that establishment are the restaurant and the bar.
Someone buy those and get rid of the rest.
Wouldn't be a big loss.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
Apparently Alberto Coppola also owns the Hotel Finisterra in Cabo San Lucas. I wonder how business is there? That might be influencing some of his
decisions regard the Los Arcos.
Striking during an economic downturn is not usually the best move. The workers don't have as much bargaining advantage if the business isn't in a
profitable cycle and the owners aren't really losing much. I think the workers would be pushing their union for a settlement sooner, rather than
later. |
I have been a union member for many years and I don't believe striking should be anything other than the very last option.
It hurts the workers and the company ...
CaboRon
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Many years ago, I was a card carrying union member, in what was known as a sweetheart union. In other words, the union leaders were in cahoots with
the management. We had to pay union dues for the opportunity to work a mandatory 52 hour week. I have to wonder if there isn't some similar situation
going on here. I've seen too many instances where labor in Mexico seems to make decisions that seem counter to their own interests
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
a sweetheart union. In other words, the union leaders were in cahoots with the management. |
That is also alive in México, it's called a "Sindicato Blanco". It is one that is started by management or the owners before the workers seek out
theire own sindicato. That is not the case here or this would not be happening.
And the saga continues
Now they have opened the posibility of resuming talks for next week.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n1027411.htm
[Edited on 1-30-2009 by fdt]
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Unions outlived their usefulness quite a while ago.
They were a necessity, many years ago, to put a stop to owner abuse of their workers.
Trouble is, there never seems to be a happy medium. After many years of establishing their rights, workers, through their unions, starting to go
overboard with their demands and slowly but surely started to cut their own throats.
Automotive industry a main exemple.
So, back to square one.
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