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BigWooo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Does anyone use these wireless adj shocks? Looks like they will work with trucks lifted to 6" . |
I'm pretty sure you can get the shocks to fit just about any lift.
I have the wireless adjuster, but haven't installed it yet. The lines and compressor that came with the kit seem a little bit flimsy. It also looks
like it's going to be somewhat difficult to install. If I ever find time to crawl under my truck, I'm going to give it a go and see how long it
lasts.
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dtbushpilot
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I didn't opt for the remote adjusters. I figured I wouldn't get around to installing it either and figured I wouldn't actually change the settings
until I put the camper on the truck and by then it probably would be broken. Should be pretty easy to crawl under the truck and change the
setting....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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bajabass
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Any 3/4 ton or 1 ton should have 10 ply-80psi max tires. For non-lifted and small lifts the KYB Mono-Max is the best shock I have seen. From unladen
to Duallies with work beds, great units in my opinion. I own a suspension and alignment shop in O.C. and work on large trucks daily. In 30 years of
selling KYB's I have seen very few fail and they do have a lifetime warranty. A rear anti sway bar is a great addition on any truck that does not come
with one O.E. Air bags are a good way to cut sag and body roll, but plumb them separately. Also have the alignment checked with the rig loaded and
ready to roll. Major alignment changes can happen with heavy loads, mainly on independant suspension designs. Monobeams, or straight axles ars not
affected as badly.
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Barry A.
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I have run KYB's for many years with nary a problem.
But we opt for load range C tires (BFG AT's) so we can air them down in the dirt to the low 20's, or even lower in sand. Can't really do that with 10
ply tires. This requires that you have an on-board compressor as it takes too long airing up for pavement with anything else. Ours cost $300, but it
is worth every penney as it is really fast.
Barry
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bajabass
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I would worry about 6-ply tires on a heavy rig. Check the load capacity at max psi. 6-ply tires are almost always a 50 psi tire. Do not over load-over
inflate a light tire on a heavy rig. also maks sure your tire shop does not use p-metric stems, rated at 50 psi. Use steel or the proper reinforced
rubber stems rated at 100 psi. I see this almost daily in my shop. Get a regular stem real hot at 60 or 80 psi, and you will spit them out like cheap
bubble gum. Costco and large chain stores with un-educated tire men do it all the time. Spit out a stem at 60mph on a heavy vehicle and hang on!!!
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bajabass
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I normally run camber as close to zero as possible and always run caster as high as possible,and yes,in factory spec. Self centering improves as you
increase caster. Also, as you add weight to the rear and it settles down caster increases as well. Check alignment fully loaded, 1/2 tank of gas, air
set as used, compensate for driver weight(ind. susp). Mono-Beam Dodges and Super Duties do not show major changes with passenger weight.
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Barry A.
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Good info, Bass-----------thank you.
Barry
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lkane
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Shocks for Dodge 2500's
Gents,
New on here but wanted to offer a suspension reference specifically for Dodge 2500's and their uses Baja.
KORE performance built my 04 Dodge Cummins 2500 suspension and the owner has extensive knowledge of these trucks and there applications in Baja. He
is based in Valley Center, CA. In 2008 Fore was named "best suspension" at the Off Road Impact Show. Although some of it can be expensive, he
certainly would be worth a phone call for guidance. The owner always answers the phone.
www.koreperformance.com
Best of luck.
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bajabass
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Any time Barry! I can't fix every car in Ca., but I will share info any time I think it may help, let alone possibly save lives. Overloading under
rated tires, wrong stems, under-over inflated tires can KILL. I take my job and my customer's safety very seriously. Just remember, most times free
advice is worth what you paid for it. Except mine, of course!! LOL
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bajabass
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Toyo Open Country AT's and MT's are good tires. I use and prefer Bridgestone Dueller AT Revo's. I will not downgrade from 10 to 8, or 8 to 6 ply tires
on my own truck, or my customers.
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Sharksbaja
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My composite frt end
| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Shark,saw only Rancho 9000xl for a 4" lift.If you have a 5 link suspension,(I am pretty sure you do) by lifting 6",you increase your extended shock
length by 2".This will shorten your droop by 2". |
Think you are correct about the fronts Whistler, up to 4". Those I listed are for the rears. The ext length for 4" calls for an extended length of
27.5' vs 32" for the other part number. That's 4.5" total more extension.
Here the 4" lift info:
Rancho Shock Absorber - Rs9000x
2004-2007 Dodge Ram 2500"RANCHO RS9000X SHOCK ABSORBER, REAR, DRIVER OR PASSENGER SIDE, LIQUID METALLIC, SOLD INDIVIDUALLY -- 27.25 in. Extended
Length, 16.875 in. Collapsed Length, Bushing And Sleeve Upper Mount, Bushing And Sleeve Lower Mount, Triple-Tube Gas Shock Absorber, 9-Position
Adjustability, Ensures Exceptional Performance Under A Full Range Of Load And Temperature Conditions, Features Graphite-Impregnated Teflon Band And
5/8 in. Double-Chromed Hardened Rod, Ideal For Towing And Hauling, With Rancho's Limited Lifetime Warranty"
Fit Note: Rear, 3/4 Ton, 4WD, 0" - 4" Rear Lift.
Series: Rs9000xFree Shipping on Orders Over $50
Availability: In Stock
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Btw Glen, I did away with my original lift. I am currently sporting a little more brawn. Total lift frt 8" rear 6.5"
Progessive coils, dual shocks. Heim links for control rods, trackbar,stabilizer and end-links. Greaseable new design ball-joints, u-joints.
Relocated steering damper,steering box brace. Kevlar brk lines, ceramic brakes. TOYO Open Country MT 38X13.50R18LT
Gonna get some bump-stops and limit straps before I get too crazy!
Now I'm rebuilding the trans with heavy duty clutches and a 2800 stall converter. There is no limit to these %*$!!# upgrades.
[Edited on 2-19-2009 by Sharksbaja]
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
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bajabass
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Hey Whistler, what alignment shop is that? Accurate Alignment in Orange owns me, er, I mean I own it.: Sage and I know each other well. He does great work. He used to be almost next door to me. His Dodge stuff works
very well.
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cantinflas
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Are the KYBs you guys like the Monomax or the Gas adjusts? Thanks for any reply.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Any 3/4 ton or 1 ton should have 10 ply-80psi max tires. For non-lifted and small lifts the KYB Mono-Max is the best shock I have seen. From unladen
to Duallies with work beds, great units in my opinion. I own a suspension and alignment shop in O.C. and work on large trucks daily. In 30 years of
selling KYB's I have seen very few fail and they do have a lifetime warranty. A rear anti sway bar is a great addition on any truck that does not come
with one O.E. Air bags are a good way to cut sag and body roll, but plumb them separately. Also have the alignment checked with the rig loaded and
ready to roll. Major alignment changes can happen with heavy loads, mainly on independant suspension designs. Monobeams, or straight axles ars not
affected as badly. |
Bajabass, how would a KYB shock help my mushiness when I have my Lance on the back? No air bags, just a stock F350 4x4 (no lift), running Michelin 10
ply LTX-MS. Probably 80% highway, 20% dirt roads. My stock Biltsteins have the rear end bouncing 3-4 times when I take a speed bump. I want something
that is 1-2. Even the Rancho 9000s on the softest setting were too stiff. This was an older 5 setting pair.
I used to run KYBs on my old Nissan 4x4 and loved them.
Then I started drinking the Kool-Aid on the Nomads board................
[Edited on 2-19-2009 by Hook]
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bajabass
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Cantinflas, on lighter vehicles I start with the Gas-A-Just. 3/4 ton and up, use the Mono-Max. Hook, on your truck the Mono-Max should work
well. Check the compression and rebound feel. I have seen many Rancho shock virtually lock up hydraulicaly after time. Try to find a shop that will
let you take a quick test drive on the Mono-Max units, if they are WAY to stiff, try the Gas-A-Just. After a few hundred miles all shocks will settle
in a little bit. If you ever find yourself in O.C., I'd love to help. Sorry, no roadside assistance in Sonora. Put down the Kool-Aid and step away!!!
Way to much sugar. LOL
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cantinflas
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Thanks bajabass. I'm trying to figure out wich shock absorber will be the best for my 84 diesel suburban. All my driving is in Mexico with the usual
mix of topes,dirt and pavement driving. The last monroe gasadjust I bought were a wast of money. They did'nt last but 1.5 years. I'm thinking either
bilsteins or kyb monos? Thanks again for any answers.
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bajabass
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The Monroe Reflex or Sensa-Trac shocks are junk in my opinion, even softer than worn out O.E. On any diesal truck the Mono-Max is the way to go.
Bilsteins have very good,smooth dampning. Very good on trucks that need smooth articulation all the way through the travel, compression and rebound.
Example, low speed rock crawling type stuff. The KYB's have quite a bit more nitrogen pressure to cut body roll and handle heavy weight and hard,
sharp hits. Topes, potholes, speed bumps, ect. Just bought a 09 Tundra TRD 4x4. When the Bilsteins give up, Icon coil-overs (Donahoe) in the front,
KYB rears. Need the adj. coilovers to level the front out. I spend many hours each day sorting out alignments on over lifted-poorly designed lifted
trucks. I will only do leveling-slight lifts in my shop. I just fix the rest. My job is to correct the headaches, not install them!!!
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
I have seen many Rancho shock virtually lock up hydraulicaly after time. |
I am wondering if that is what I experienced on my 9000s in the rear. I could not get the adjusters to go to 1 or 5. They physically resisted it. It
would only move between 2-4, and none of the settings seemed any different.
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bajabass
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Very possible Hook. Not uncommon in my experiences.Check action compared to a new one if possible.Then check any other shock you wish to use as a
replacement. You can barely compress a new Mono-Max or Gas-A-Just. Bilsteins, a little easier. This is not the remote res. types I am referring to. On
newer trucks with coil-over design, it is a lot of work, the coils are hard to compress. Standard design is a breeze, and worth the time. Check a few
new and old shocks and you will begin to get a feel for it. What is a good ride for some, can be hellish for others.
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