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[*] posted on 4-1-2009 at 11:14 PM


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He didn't notice any radar, but going through the S.Q. and San Vincente area in both directions there was a greater presence of C.F. than usual. He said he must have passed 4 - 6 just in that area.

Have a good trip EGL. We'll be in Bahia April 12th for the week...(hint hint)
Love to the Barbanator.

P y D y C

[Edited on 1-4-2009 by Paulina]


Thanks for the heads up everyone on this thread. We will keep it at 60 km to avoid any radar love.:saint: Here's hoping we have no problemas. We will keep our eyes open and if we don't make it back then........?

I have to be in Salt Lake City/Sacramento/San Francisco/Los Angeles/San Diego the week of the 12th, damn work! :mad:

See you this summer!? :dudette:
Give D & C a hug from us!

I am reminded of the old game of telephone where by the end of the circle the story is slightly reworked and has a different tone but typically has elements of the original. Lets hope the good guys get the bad guys.

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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 07:59 AM


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Oh yeah, what ever became of the U-haul Couple for Jehovah?




They're still out there.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 08:04 AM


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Oh yeah, what ever became of the U-haul Couple for Jehovah?




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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 08:31 AM
Caught some criminals


From today's "El Vigia" newspaper



Today he is 2 of April of 2009 Subscriptions | Publicity | Circulation | Escríbenos | We

The Watch > the News > the Valley

IN THE SECTION THE ROSARIO-CATAVIÑA
They catch supposed attackers of the South

Two tie subjects in at least 4 robberies with firearm in the Transpeninsular highway fall, and other 2 are fugitive of justice


Elements of the Ministerial Police assured to Rescuing Edgar Barajas Zarate of 18 years of age; and Daniel Botello Lopez, 21 years of age.
By Caesar Córdova/EL WATCH
2009-04-01 00:00: 00
Cove, B.C. - They capture in Tijuana 2 tie subjects in at least 4 robberies with firearm in the Transpeninsular highway, in the section Rosary, and other 2 are fugitive of justice.

These people on board a vehicle reached to their victims encañonaban, them forced, them to pause, cleared the units soon to them were left in places desolate.

Elements of the Ministerial Police of Estado (PME), assured to Rescuing Edgar Barajas Zarate of 18 years of age; and Daniel Botello Lopez, 21 years of age, by its presumed participation in 4 robberies with violence happened to the South of the municipality.

The director of Previous Inquiries of the suboffice of the judge advocate general of Embosomed zone indicated that these 2 people realised the holdups along with Alfonso Bojorquez Bojorquez, of 37 years of age; and Juan Martin Ramirez Quiñónez, of 21 years, and that are fugitive of justice.

Frame Antonio Chavarría Lopez indicated that this band this implied in 4 robberies conducted in the wagon section included between San Quintín and Black Guerrero, South Baja California; and in a shooting against a conductor who managed to escape of being assaulted.

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Investigations realised by ministerial agents reveal the modus operandi of the indicated ones, that on board a vehicle in movement catch up to the unit of their victims, from threatened them to the window a pistol, while they ordered to them that they paused.

Once the conductors stopped their march, they were raised the vehicles of the presumed people in charge, transported who them by a breach to a solitary place they left where them and automotive ones took their to sell them in the city of Tijuana.

Chavarría Lopez assured that investigations the ministerial ones in the towns of the zone where the assaults were committed, to puntaron until the colony Summits of the Ruby, Delegation of San Antonio of the Good ones in the border city, where 2 members of the band were stopped.

At the time of the securing were 3 vehicles with robbery report, the units are pick up marks to Ford Ranger blue color, model 2004; a light truck marks Jeep Cherokee, white color, model 199; and mark Toyota Corolla, white color, model 1990 soothe.

The 2 stopped were put at the disposal of the agent of the Public Ministry of the Common Law, that will give legal pursuit of the case.

With regard to the fugitives, Frame Antonio Chavarría Lopez exhorted to the community for denunciation to telephones (646) 1522700, exte3730 and 3731, or (646) 1723520, what that information that is useful to find the whereabouts.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 09:18 AM


Thanks for the good news Dave/Juanita... !



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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 09:37 AM


would it be possible to add the link so we can read it in spanish?? por favor



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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 10:08 AM


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would it be possible to add the link so we can read it in spanish?? por favor


http://www.elvigia.net/noticias/?seccion=elvalle&id=17419&como=

Sorry it happened at all, hope they caught the correct people, and hope the 40 or 50 numbers were a result of the natural increase in the rumor mill.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 10:25 AM


they only caught 2 of them and 2 of their buddies are still at large but hopefully this will stop the problem in that area for the meantime anyway.



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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 10:29 AM


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This wouldn't be happening if guns were allowed. Good people with guns are still good people. Now, only bad people have guns and the good are suffering.


I agree whole heartedly.
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 11:22 AM


Just another thought about the police catching two of the perps---we hope the correct ones.

Things happen everywhere---I know that is REALLY profound, be sure to write it down. :rolleyes:

But what is important to me is that the problem was addressed and from the reports of extra police, police stops, etc., it seems like they were aggressive in their response---a good thing.

It is a good and positive message.

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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 11:34 AM


Thank You Nomads. This is the best news I have heard all week.

Before I pack my truck and head south I want to encourage everyone to stay on this. The good news should face the same scrutiny that the bad news has in the interest of keeping all of us safe. So lets verify this one too.:D
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 12:47 PM


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These states are turning into an active crime zone. The perps know they have little chance of getting caught. When the heat rises, they just settle back and wait. This wouldn't be happening if guns were allowed. Good people with guns are still good people. Now, only bad people have guns and the good are suffering.

Yeah yeah...I know. Blame the United States. Our guns made good people bad. Yeah...right.


Dennis - I gotta say that I agree with you! These guys would have tried to jack the wrong car and would have been in for quite a surprize! Would love to be the one to show them the business end of a .45!!! You never know - I've heard of plenty of people that still take guns down south....Not the smartest thing to do, but could save your life...


Just for reassurance, there were many times I wished that I had my 9mm with me in Mexico. But after hearing the story of what happened to an acquaintance of mine when he got caught with his gun, I never got up the nerve to take mine down. After reading posts on alternative legal protection devices a flare gun sounded like the way to go. Before running out and buying one a friend and I bought some flares for his Defender shotgun with an 18" barrel. The results were very disappointing, and that was with a barrel 4 times longer then a flare gun.
We shot at a piece of 1/4" plywood about 10 feet away. The flare did not go through it, it just bounced off, no burn mark, but it did put a round dent the size of the 12 gauge shell in the plywood. The dent was only about 3/32" deep. I could have done more damage by throwing a stone at the plywood. The conclusion, forget the flare gun. Anyone got any better ideas?
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 12:52 PM


Wasp spray with a 20-25' range!:yes:
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 01:07 PM
Please tell us


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But after hearing the story of what happened to an acquaintance of mine when he got caught with his gun, I never got up the nerve to take mine down.


I'm of the opinion that being armed and in trouble is better than not being armed and dead.




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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 01:16 PM


It appears that they target vehicles that "blend in" to the Tijuana scenery for a quick sale. This M.O. makes perfect sense to me and answers a lot of my questions.

Kind of makes you want to drive a big lifted Gringo 4x4 for a different reason...




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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 05:10 PM


for fun and not for looks?:P



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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 05:16 PM


Dave

Im sure you have also heard the
I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

I was raised by a cop who also was a champion target shooter for 50 plus years.

Here is what he used to carry in his pocket among other carries.

http://www.naaminis.com/lrifle.html

I took mine out squirrel hunting a couple of times with it loaded with snake shot. In that critical 7 to 25 feet area, this gun and load does wonders.

Once you get tuned in to the thought of "stop the threat" instead of the 44 magnum mentality, this could do quite well in a number of "situations"

Also its a 22 and most likey would cause less of serious charge than being caught with the traditional prohibited military caliburs.

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I carried one of these for years amongst others I had. Of course no fancy folding holster grip back then. You can palm it without anyone knowing you have it. This at close range is a beauty! I would not recommend taking it to Mexico though!




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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 08:10 PM
Running the Gauntlet


Maybe I haven't read all the posts for this thread. I don't recall seeing anything about how to avoid running into an ambush.

I can have binoculars in my passenger seat to look ahead if I have enough time. Also, my flare gun in hand pulling up to something that looks questionable could work.

Brought this question up to a MX/Ameri friend recently and he said slow down with ''intent'' to shoot through the roadblock, if necessary.

Can't say that getting killed over my car and possessions is a good thing but I live with a ''won't be taken alive'' mentality.

Anyone else?
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[*] posted on 4-2-2009 at 08:41 PM


So far convoys seem to be the only solution. I will probably wait at the PEMEX in El Rosario for a couple other cars to hook with when I pass through this area. Safety in numbers. Oh and don't stop.
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