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sourdough
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For cripes sakes, stay home!! This place is full of Mexicans!!
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elskel
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Driving south
I left for so. Baja / Pescadreo on Sat. May 8th, crossed the border at 6am /Tijuana . I was driving solo and had no problems at all. First day San
Ignacio, second day Pescadero/Todos Santos. All encountered along the way were great. I was taking supplies and truck to my place in Pescadero.
salud, brian
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coho
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Having driven 27 round trips deep into Baja over the last 9 years, I still feel safe everywhere but Tijuana. Get through it as fast as possible and
during the daytime. Entering from the States at 8AM Sunday morning is the best...a breeze. Re entry at 10 AM has been OK with a usual 2 hour delay.
Don't flaunt wealth or do anything stupid and it is beyond that strictly a numbers game. You never know when your time will come....anywhere in the
world.
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arrowhead
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Today's TJ newspaper says the ceasefire is over. There have been headless bodies showing up all over. They are really cranking up the kidnapping
business. Today the son of a well known TJ doctor showed up encobijado, minus his head.
[Edited on 5-22-2009 by arrowhead]
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Today's TJ newspaper says the ceasefire is over. There have been headless bodies showing up all over. They are really cranking up the kidnapping
business. Today the son of a well known TJ doctor showed up encobijado, minus his head.
[Edited on 5-22-2009 by arrowhead] |
-------all you gotta do is enter into intelligent negotiation with "them" and everything will be alright.
-----after all, we all know that the cartel-folks are just misunderstood, justified, and the USA is to blame.
Keep the faith-----------
Barry
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MrBillM
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Statistically Speaking................
No Problema. The Odds are with you.
BUT, that's even true of the Soldiers walking the streets in Downtown Baghdad. Only a small percentage are maimed or killed.
Take comfort in the statistics.
Don't Worry. Be Happy.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vagabundo84
Nomads,
My buddies and I have been going annual trips to Baja for 6 years now, usually driving all the way to the tip and back. We've encountered the usual
Baja problems, eg. la mordida, broken down in the desert, getting drugged at bars, petty theft, and it's always been fine. This year we are planning
on crossing at Tecate, and heading to BOLA and Abreojos. With all the media attention though, we obviously are a little apprehensive. We always travel
in groups, during the day, and dont even stop until we're south of Ensenada. What I am wondering is just a straight answer from people who are down
there as to how safe/unsafe it really is. It seems like people are still crossing the border fine and taking trips down there, I just want some
reassurance. Thanks for the help and I appreciate honest answers. |
Roll in a beater that isn't going to break down. In my Rubicon, the cops pulled me out of the Jeep south of San Quentin, and the police officer gave
me a real wierd vibe about wanting to steal my Jeep. I've had this almost happen in Mexicali too. Mafia and cops goes together real well in Baja, I
guess.
Because, I was with TW in Mexicali and with the Baja Grande group in San Quentin, the cops let me go & keep my Jeep. If I were driving alone, I
might not have lived to talk about it since I wouldn't go down without a fight. 
I know this doesn't go well with the Peace and Fish Tacos vibe here, but this is the real deal. Roll in a $40,000+ playtoy, and I guess you're asking
for trouble south of the border. Roll deep or lose your wheels.
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Paulina
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This story shares a different twist on the media’s view of violence in Mexico, and the effect it can have on the general public. It goes beyond
tourism. The straight answer on baja safety depends on who you ask.
I know of someone who is involved in a custody battle with her ex husband who knows that if he can keep their daughter out of baja, he can then
control her baja life as well.
She knows that with every news media report, article, and Internet thread about the issue of safety concerns and violence in Baja her ex is one step
closer to keeping her stateside.
He knows that her heart and soul are baja. Her first experience was a fishing trip with her grandfather when she was three. She continued to visit
baja for her dad’s off road races. When she was in college she revisited the same beach side villages with her friends. She met the man there who
would someday become her ex. They were engaged there, both of their children were conceived there, the youngest one almost had the privilege of being
born there.
She spent every school holiday with her children in Baja, most of the time without him as he had business and other “interests” to attend to. She was
600 mi. south of the border when she found out from the town doctor that her ex had sent an email, asking the doctor to let her know that he had filed
for divorce, and taken every cent out of their bank account. The kind doctor gave her $200.00 so she and her 6 year old daughter could make the drive
back stateside.
He wasn't very concerned for his daughter's safety then.
When they divorced, she kept the places in Baja, her truck and her panga and all her fishing gear. She kept the Mexican friends they had made; after
all, none of them could ever remember his name.
She got her life back. She got Baja. He doesn’t like that.
A couple of years ago, he told the Family Court Judge that she was a flight risk, so the court ordered her to obtain either his permission or that of
the court to take their daughter home to Baja. She had to go to the expense of petitioning the court two times in one year to take her daughter south
for school holidays. Her ex denied permission even though neither one of those two trips interfered with his visitation schedule.
He learned that if he could keep their daughter out, he could keep her out.
When the Passport travel rule came down he refused to sign the application. Once again she had to go to court to ask the Judge to order his signature.
She had to go through this procedure twice as her ex ignored the courts ruling the first time.
The next time they were in court the Judge gave her back her freedom to travel to Baja and ordered her ex to provide upon demand any further
documentation necessary for their daughter to go too.
In November 2008 she asked her ex to sign the U.S. Immigration consent form that would allow the child to travel with only one parent. Regardless of
the court order to execute this document he refused.
He also has kindly offered to file International kidnapping charges against her should she try to go without it.
It has been over a year since their daughter has been able to go home to Baja, to see her friends and family there. If he has his way, it will be a
lot longer, as he now has the news media to help fuel his fire.
He knows all the common sense baja traveling rules, as it was once a part of his life too. He chose to call himself the “Baja VIP” on the old Amigos
board.
He knows that she has over 30 years experience in traveling baja. He knows her friends, her connections, her favorite places, her holiday traditions.
He knows her every baja mood that she chooses to publicly share, as he lurks, he follows her every post on the baja boards.
He knows of her emergency plans, the connections she has made up and down the peninsula. He knows she travels with a satellite phone and enough spare
truck parts to open a store. He knows she is only a computer key board away from friends who would come to the rescue if called.
He knows all this, but now he has more leverage. He knows that none of that means anything to those who only know Baja from what they see on T.V. or
read in the news or on the internet. That would be the family court judge that will soon be hearing his plea to help him save his daughter from all
the reported violence and corruption, and decadent life that he can only imagine his ex wife lives down there, and exposes their daughter to.
After all, he continues to read all about it on the Nomad board.
As a result, she has kept her postings to a minimum. She hasn’t written trip reports, or participated in some of the fun threads that might have to do
with watching a sunset with her favorite adult beverage, as he has told the court that all of her Baja friends are alcoholics, drug abusers, or
running from the law. Why else would they be living there? Why else would they call themselves Nomads?
With every thread that is started that quotes the latest drug lord news, beheadings, local shootings, Police corruption and stupid tourist mistake, he
prints out one more piece of evidence to use against her and her living her life in Baja. One more piece of so called truth to use as an albatross
around her neck.
I’m sure she’d be glad to read this thread through, to read that there still is such a thing as common sense and that there are people who still
believe in it.
Just don't drive at night. You're more likely to hit a cow than be held up by a bad guy. But then again, I'm one of those common sense Nomads who
continues to believe in Baja.
P<*)))>{
[Edited on 22-5-2009 by Paulina]
\"Well behaved women rarely make history.\" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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elgatoloco
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Psycopath~
A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.
This guys fits the description!
MAGA
marooons Are Governing America
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24baja
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Paulina, I am so sorry for your friend, I hope Karma comes to visit him real soon! Connie
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Bajahowodd
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The feeling I get is that somewhere within the US news organizations and the government, someone realized that they had really gone way over the line.
Thus, there appears to be a more conciliatory approach to Mexico. Just a feeling I get.
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
The feeling I get is that somewhere within the US news organizations and the government, someone realized that they had really gone way over the line.
Thus, there appears to be a more conciliatory approach to Mexico. Just a feeling I get. |
I hope that this is so.
As I've stated about myself on other threads, I generally don't have access to US television. Right now, however, I'm staying with friends Stateside,
so the other morning while coffee was brewing and before my head was in gear I turned on CNN... I could not believe my bleary eyes and ears!
There was a reporter with an inter-active monitor instructing the viewing public how we can go to a certain website linked to CNN to find out
everything you ever wanted to know about the dangerous Mexican cartels and the drug wars that they are having, in Mexico and the USA. He then
proceeded to click on the name of one of the Mexican cartels; photos of that cartel's members appeared. Click on a photo and the "rap sheet" of that
individual could be accessed. Also indicated was whether or not that (supposed) cartel member was dead or still alive. I also learned within a span
of about one minute which US city was now the kidnapping capitol of America which, of course, is linked with the drug wars going on in Mexico,
according to the professional newscaster.
Geez! Me thinkz somebody has too much time on their hands. This is fear-mongering at its worst perpetrated by a major news source. Disgusting!
I turned off the tv, grabbed my nice hot coffee and went back to bed to wake up reading www.bajanomad.com
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woody with a view
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wow Paulina
let's all do a group thought. repeat after me, "i hope that culero gets hit by a bus real soon."
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rpleger
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If you feel uncomfortable, or don´t trust Mexicans. Need to travel in groups for protection, Then don´t come to Baja California, you wont enjoy
yourself.
STAY AWAY
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Mulegena
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Yes, Paulina. My sympathies go out to your friend and her dear family. Life is tough anyway
without the heartbreak of a broken family. I know your friend will keep up the good struggle.
These responses to your post show the sincere good wishes and hope being sent their way by Nomad Friends that life will show kindness to her and the
children.
Richard & Patty on the Hill. Hi, Guys. I'd love for you to meet Mick's daughters this summer.
They're shy and polite with new people, but are really fun and funny when they open up.
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rpleger
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Mulegena....I would love to meet them too.
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Cypress
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Paranoid about visiting Baja? Anywhere in Baja is much better than the inner
cities of the good old USA.
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mulegemichael
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lisa marie...i want to meet them also!...i'll probably be gone tho by the time you get back into town...my son is flying down and we're driving back
in the toyota as it needs some tender loving care up north...so...obviously we're not worried about piracy on the road...too bad we'll miss you this
time...we'll get into town next thursday...we'll have mick over for dinner and a cold one!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
The next time they were in court the Judge gave her back her freedom to travel to Baja and ordered her ex to provide upon demand any further
documentation necessary for their daughter to go too.
In November 2008 she asked her ex to sign the U.S. Immigration consent form that would allow the child to travel with only one parent. Regardless of
the court order to execute this document he refused.
He also has kindly offered to file International kidnapping charges against her should she try to go without it. |
Paulina, almost nothing you say makes any sense. Sounds more like a coffee clatch gossip than reality.
1) There is no such thing as a US Immigration consent form to travel abroad with a child. Many countries require the consent of the non-traveling
parent, but that is just a notartized statement on a white sheet of paper saying the parent consents to the travel.
2) Your friend doesn't need the consent of the ex. As you stated, she has a court order requiring the ex to consent. She only needs to carry a copy of
that with her. The only concern foreign authorities have is that a child may be kidnapped. The court order is more than enough. What do you think
single parents do when the ex bugs out and is divorced in absentia? Stop all travel?
3) If the ex files a charge of kidnapping when your friend has the court's consent and custody to travel with the child, that would be a false police
report. Your friend's lawyer could cut him up into little pieces in court, revoke or restrict his visitation rights and make him pay up for any
trouble he caused. Filing a false police report is a crime.
4) When the ex refused to sign, even after the court order, why did your friend's lawyer not start a contempt action and set a court date for an order
to show cause?
Is your friend a little slow-witted or something?
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Paulina
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1. http://wiki.lawdepot.com/wiki/Child_Travel_Consent_Form_FAQ_...
http://www.familytravelforum.com/how/advice/10545-Required-D...
https://www.apu.edu/iom/mexout/download/200809/mexout_consen...
2. They have joint legal custody.
3. Same as above.
4. In motion as I type.
P<*)))>{
[Edited on 23-5-2009 by Paulina]
\"Well behaved women rarely make history.\" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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