BornFisher
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Passport required tomorrow!
If you really want to return to the USA, you will need a passport starting tomorrow. Looks like they will forgive you once and that`s it! I wonder
what happens if you are down Baja way, lose your passport, want to come home and can`t.
This will probably happen to me or you or someone you know, and then what? Since you can`t get a US passport in Mex, will you have to hire a coyote??
Or another thought-- just go MIA and become a Baja vagabond, aimlessly wandering, babbling incoherently, surviving on rattlesnake, triggerfish, and
coyote stew?
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David K
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Honestly, they cannot prevent you from returning to your own country... You may need to go to Secondary or into the office and get extra questions
asked to make sure you are an American.
With so many years of warning to get a passport or card, you shouldn't complain if you are delayed...
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
If you really want to return to the USA, you will need a passport starting tomorrow. Looks like they will forgive you once and that`s it! I wonder
what happens if you are down Baja way, lose your passport, want to come home and can`t.
This will probably happen to me or you or someone you know, and then what? Since you can`t get a US passport in Mex, will you have to hire a coyote??
Or another thought-- just go MIA and become a Baja vagabond, aimlessly wandering, babbling incoherently, surviving on rattlesnake, triggerfish, and
coyote stew? |
US Passports may be issued in Tijuana, MX and other US consul locations, at least up til now. Many people lose their US passport and get a new
passport in Mexico if you can prove it.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
If you really want to return to the USA, you will need a passport starting tomorrow. Looks like they will forgive you once and that`s it!
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They will forgive you as many times as needed, you can not be kiked out of the country, specialy since you are already in the US. The constitution
overrides any Western hemisphere initiatiave they can come out with.
| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
Since you can`t get a US passport in Mex, will you have to hire a coyote??
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You can get a US Passport anywere in the world you might be thru a US consulate or embassy
Get a Passport or Passport Card anyway
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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DENNIS
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No passport? I shudder to think about it. You'll be shunned and turned back at Heavens Gate to wander aimlessly in a land which will soon turn it's
back on you. You'll be .....oh lord, I can hardly say it...a man without a country. Everybody will hate you and throw garbage at you and you'll be
so lonely and hungry, you'll think they're trying to feed you.The police won't even arrest you because you're a nobody with no pesos.
Then, one day as your bodily functions are shutting down one by one, you'll be visited by divine inspiration and you'll drag your cadaver-like body
to a hole in the fence not twenty yards from the gate and you'll muster all remaining strength to walk through that fence with twenty million other
lost souls to the promised land. You'll be saved and renewed and you'll thank the Border Patrol for arresting you...that is 'till they take you back
to the turnstiles and throw you back into Mexico because you don't have a passport and the whole cycle will start over again.
So....don't lose your passport. It could ruin an otherwise good day.
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fdt
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A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Heather
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My husband got a call last night from a buddy he works with here in San Diego. Buddy lives in TJ, US citizen, but no passport. He plans to sleep on
someone's couch here until he gets his passport! My hubby didn't offer ours! I'm wondering how many of my students will get stuck on this side!
It's not like they didn't know! Manana!
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DENNIS
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Don't students have to live in the district which they attend public school? Just wondering. Maybe you're working in a private school.
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Cyanide41
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anyone know what the fine is for not having the needed documents
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
If you really want to return to the USA, you will need a passport starting tomorrow. Looks like they will forgive you once and that`s it! I wonder
what happens if you are down Baja way, lose your passport, want to come home and can`t.
This will probably happen to me or you or someone you know, and then what? Since you can`t get a US passport in Mex, will you have to hire a coyote??
Or another thought-- just go MIA and become a Baja vagabond, aimlessly wandering, babbling incoherently, surviving on rattlesnake, triggerfish, and
coyote stew? |
Just go MIA. You could be like that gringo with the long hair in Catavina. He walks up to every gringo's vehicle and asks for "one penny, or one
nickle". He has been there years. I guess he has survival pared down to the basics. You'd better stake out a different resort paradise
though. This guy owns Catavina by now.
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cristobal
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WITH or WITHOUT ...
This was in the L.A. TIMES ......
David K was right again ...
"We are expecting a smooth implementation," Kelly Ivahnenko, spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, told me this month. She explained
that about 80% of travelers were already showing the right documents at checkpoints. Those who don't, she added, won't be denied entry. 
getyouhome.gov 
        
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Heather
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Just talked to one student who wasn't allowed to cross into the U.S. without her passport last week Thursday. She stood in line at the post office in
Chula Vista for about 6 hours on Friday, and has the passport in the works. Since she's graduating next week she's staying in the US for the week,
although she was told she could pass with the passport receipts. Says she and 2 or 3 cousins are staying with family over here.
Yes, Dennis, US residency is required to attend school in the US. There is a verification of this at the beginning of the school year...it looks like
some of the students know how to get around it! You should see the crowd of kids waiting for the city bus to TJ in the afternoons!
I am at a public school, in the largest high school district in the state! Saludos, H.
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Russ
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Read this at CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/06/01/us.canada.border.rules/...
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Bajahowodd
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It has already been addressed here. No US citizen will be turned back. it's just a matter of how punitive the Immigration folks want to get.
Obviously, secondary is the bottom rung of the ladder. Just don't be carrying any sort of contraband. Cavity search?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
It has already been addressed here. No US citizen will be turned back. it's just a matter of how punitive the Immigration folks want to get.
Obviously, secondary is the bottom rung of the ladder. Just don't be carrying any sort of contraband. Cavity search? |
Oh, Yeah...About five hours in the heat of secondary will wipe out all the sassyness one wants to bring to the place.
Folks will learn that their rights don't come without paying the price of holding up the line.
Get the freakin document so we all can move on in relative comfort.
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rpleger
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I think they have plans to send them to GITMO.
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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toneart
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Today's (Tuesday) news reports
claim that there were no unusual delays yesterday due to the passport requirement.
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baja-chris
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Unusually short border wait going north at Otay Mesa yesterday afternoon.
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