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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 06:47 PM


oops forgot you were only in the norte



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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 07:05 PM


i think a 24 piece case of pacificos are around 165 pesos here in mulege...that does not include the deposit...nuthin like an ice cold bottle of pacifico at 10am when it's blisterin' out..



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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 07:20 PM


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i think a 24 piece case of pacificos are around 165 pesos here in mulege...that does not include the deposit...nuthin like an ice cold bottle of pacifico at 10am when it's blisterin' out..


How much is the deposit?
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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 07:43 PM


Few can tell you the cost of deposit...I am going to say 4-8 pesos per bottle...if you are a bottom liner, maybe drinking in Baja is out of your reach



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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 07:52 PM


Have bought a few cases over the years and as I recall, deposit was just about the same as the beer cost.



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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 08:34 PM


Just bought a case of Pacifico light from the agencia right in front of the Guaymas corporate offices...................174 pesos for 24 bottles. This price includes exchanging bottles.

Tecate has a new promotion going on right now. There is a Tecate Rojo bottle (retornable) that is larger than a caguama and they are selling them at OXXO (of course) for 19 pesos. I think it is the equivalent of four 355ml sized beers. Pretty good price. I have no idea what the deposit is on the bottle.

The caguamas are 16 pesos over here, not counting deposit.

[Edited on 6-30-2009 by Hook]




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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 08:37 PM


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Few can tell you the cost of deposit...I am going to say 4-8 pesos per bottle...if you are a bottom liner, maybe drinking in Baja is out of your reach


LOL, Well, I was just interested what a case of beer and deposit was. I didn't realize it was going to be such a difficult question.

BTW, so far there has been nowhere in the world for me that has been out of reach for drinking. :lol: Last month in Egypt was close tho! $16 for a 1oz shot of Bacardi :P
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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 08:58 PM


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I'm be coming up for Percebu.



Well, why didn't you say so. While you're in Percebu, go over to MrBill's house and drink his beer. When you get ready to leave, load all remaining beer into your cooler and have a good trip.
See how easy that was?
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[*] posted on 6-29-2009 at 09:31 PM


I've often wondered about the price difference between the standard bottles and the ballenas. Crunching the numbers a bit, and using Al G's figures (Pacifico 24 is 192 pesos and 12 Ballena is 202.00 pesos), it looks like per 100 ml,

Standard bottle = 1.8 pesos
Ballena = 2.5 pesos

I seen why the frugal folks buy the big bottles.




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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 06:03 AM


BajaBruno, how many milliliters are you figuring the standard bottles and the ballenas at? Standard bottles are now generally 355mls and the ballenas are 940ml, I believe. Most brands have gone away from the 325ml bottles for one that is closer to 12oz.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 08:01 AM


Bruno, You have them reversed.
Cost per 100ml
Ballena 1.79
and
Regular 2,25


Typo error.:no::no:

[Edited on 6-30-2009 by vandenberg]




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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 09:26 AM


The Little beer store shaped like a six pack of Coronas south of Mexicali:
N 32 degrees 17.346'
W 115 degrees 19.378'

A good place to relieve yourself of used cerveza on the way to San Felipe:
N 32 degrees 01.820'
W 115 degrees 14.252'

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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 09:42 AM


Hook, I was using 325 ml. Using your volume (and getting the order correct, a la Sr. Vandenberg), the result is:

Standard bottle = 2.3 pesos
Ballena = 1.8 pesos

Thanks to both of you for the correction. (I rounded to tenths.)




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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 09:46 AM


Maybe it's me, but I prefer the taste of Pacifico in a ballena more than a medio bottle. Seems to taste closer to a true draft beer.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 10:01 AM


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Few can tell you the cost of deposit...I am going to say 4-8 pesos per bottle...if you are a bottom liner, maybe drinking in Baja is out of your reach


LOL, Well, I was just interested what a case of beer and deposit was. I didn't realize it was going to be such a difficult question.

BTW, so far there has been nowhere in the world for me that has been out of reach for drinking. :lol: Last month in Egypt was close tho! $16 for a 1oz shot of Bacardi :P


I apologize...I sometimes get carried away when a few dollars becomes an issue over non-returnables. I live here and buy a lot of Pacifico, but the deposit was never an issue, so not sure if all depositos charge the same. It also appears the purchase price differs. If you figure $12 one time per case...it will be close, maybe less. To me that is not a lot to donate to the environment and most likely a very, very low percentage of your over-all cost.




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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 10:19 AM


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Maybe it's me, but I prefer the taste of Pacifico in a ballena more than a medio bottle. Seems to taste closer to a true draft beer.

I had often thought there was a difference also...so I just opened a ballena and medio and poured them clear glass to see a color change. I could not see a difference, nor could I taste a difference.:rolleyes:
I did one time open a ballena bottle of corona and it poured the color of Indio...it tasted a little better then Indio and a hell of a lot better then Corona...the corona friend would not drink it:lol:




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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 11:30 AM


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Few can tell you the cost of deposit...I am going to say 4-8 pesos per bottle...if you are a bottom liner, maybe drinking in Baja is out of your reach


LOL, Well, I was just interested what a case of beer and deposit was. I didn't realize it was going to be such a difficult question.

BTW, so far there has been nowhere in the world for me that has been out of reach for drinking. :lol: Last month in Egypt was close tho! $16 for a 1oz shot of Bacardi :P


To me that is not a lot to donate to the environment and most likely a very, very low percentage of your over-all cost.


I know this is off topic but are you sure returnables are more environmentally friendly than recycling? Just how much oil is burned shipping those heavy empty bottles full of air back to the brewery, taking up considerable cargo space that could be used for something besides glass containers containing nothing?

Crushing them up locally, dramatically reducing the volume, and shipping the crushed glass to the closest bottle maker may be the way to go.
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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 11:52 AM


Maybe it's just my unrefined taste buds, but beer has pretty much the same taste whether it comes in a can, bottle, or keg. Differences in taste from one brand to the other, nearly all of it's good.:D After a few of this brand or another most folks can't tell them apart. Try this. Mix some Bloody Marys and some Screw Drivers. After a few of either a person can't tell one from the other. Must be the acidic tomatoe juice and the acidic orange juice?:?:
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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 11:56 AM


I think Al is talking about how many non returnable bottles end up on the road, beach, etc. vs how many returnables you see left around. The Mexicans are getting better about picking up.........but nothing like an incentive!
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[*] posted on 6-30-2009 at 12:07 PM


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I know this is off topic but are you sure returnables are more environmentally friendly than recycling? Just how much oil is burned shipping those heavy empty bottles full of air back to the brewery, taking up considerable cargo space that could be used for something besides glass containers containing nothing?

Crushing them up locally, dramatically reducing the volume, and shipping the crushed glass to the closest bottle maker may be the way to go.

1) How much recycling in Baja now??
2)Volume vs. weight??( a belief that all ships are loaded to weight not volume capacity )
3) Energy needed to crush, sort, melt, ship, and remanufacture?? (It must be cheaper or they would not do it)
Do you think this is right?
:no::no:
I feel they do it because they know 90% will not come back...we are not in California anymore...
The steps and cost required to remanufacture are greater then manufacturing new...that is my guess.
We have not discussed the Gringo wine bottle yet.
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