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rts551
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Sounds like time to "put up" mr woosh man.
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DianaT
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People in Bahia Asuncion jumped at this offer and I am sure when they get there, they will be treated as well as they are in Abreojos.
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I'm really excited about working with the group in Bahia Asuncion. I'm glad we met at the shop!
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It was a chance meeting, and we look forward to the really positive results. We hope the fall training in Abreojos goes well.
Diane and John
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Sounds like time to "put up" mr woosh man. |
Put up what Senor Zonie? We have 5 donated towers sitting somewere in Rosarito with no legs- that's fine for this year because there is no one
trained to staff them. It was cheaper to "donate" them to Mexico than to dispose of them stateside. That is a fact. There is one trained lifeguard
in Rosarito. That is a fact. If he doesn't have fins and a buoy, let me know. Actually the ONLY guard I see on a quad that parks and watches the
water, swimmers and surf has both already. I just didn't know he was all alone- and no one else did either until this thread.
Nomads can't be expected to take all of Mexico under their wings- but if each of us tries to make his own Baja location cleaner, better and safer- we
have done our share.
[Edited on 7-10-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Dannyrose
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As of fathers day weekend the guard stations were in the parking lot at the beach in front of the library. Can't say for other parts of the beach but
there is a life guard station at the waters edge that has a few guards on the weekends. they normally a jet ski as well as atv's. they seem to be
professional. Here's a picture of the guard stations if I saved it correctly
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Woooosh
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Thanks for the pics. Interesting place to store and arrange them- the middle of a beach parking lot. Maybe they'll get their legs sooner than later-
but that's like putting new wheels on a truck that has no engine. The guard training will come before the tourists return again. They have time.
BTW- The police "look" professional in Mexico too- but it's all a grand illusion.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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mpilgrim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Nomads can't be expected to take all of Mexico under their wings- but if each of us tries to make his own Baja location cleaner, better and safer- we
have done our share.
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Heres your opportunity. Are you interested in helping with the upcoming training?
I'd like to have a meet and greet with local community members such as yourself as well as the lifeguards in Rosarito.
I'm also going to try to work with Tijuana Lifeguards to see if they would be interested in working with the Rosarito guards. It would be a good
experience for the Rosarito guards to see that it is possible to create and maintain a professional Lifeguard Service in Baja.
Thanks
Mike
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mpilgrim
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Nomads can't be expected to take all of Mexico under their wings- but if each of us tries to make his own Baja location cleaner, better and safer- we
have done our share.
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Heres your opportunity. Are you interested in helping with the upcoming training?
I'd like to have a meet and greet with local community members such as yourself as well as the lifeguards in Rosarito.
I'm also going to try to work with Tijuana Lifeguards to see if they would be interested in working with the Rosarito guards. It would be a good
experience for the Rosarito guards to see that it is possible to create and maintain a professional Lifeguard Service in Baja.
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u2u me!
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AWWWWRIGHT.....Sounds like Whooosh finally found a job. 
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mpilgrim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by mpilgrim
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Nomads can't be expected to take all of Mexico under their wings- but if each of us tries to make his own Baja location cleaner, better and safer- we
have done our share.
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Heres your opportunity. Are you interested in helping with the upcoming training?
I'd like to have a meet and greet with local community members such as yourself as well as the lifeguards in Rosarito.
I'm also going to try to work with Tijuana Lifeguards to see if they would be interested in working with the Rosarito guards. It would be a good
experience for the Rosarito guards to see that it is possible to create and maintain a professional Lifeguard Service in Baja.
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mpilgrim
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Wooosh,
contact me via email, mike@iblifeguards.org or get back to me via u2u.
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Mike
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mpilgrim
Wooosh,
contact me via email, mike@iblifeguards.org or get back to me via u2u.
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I'll check the U2U again.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
AWWWWRIGHT.....Sounds like Whooosh finally found a job.
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LOL. Def a nephew item. He's out in the water every day and knows some of them. Who needs yet another non-paying job in this economy? 
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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WOW "woooosh" you complain more than my ex-wife's CAT!
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Just read through this thread and noticed a recurring theme: people commenting on the minimal public services in Mexico, this time the lifeguard
service in Rosarito, as compared to services in San Diego.
Perhaps expecting similar services when the property taxes in Mex are about 1/10th of an equally priced San Diego house (if you can find one) is
unreasonable.
[Edited on 7-16-2009 by k-rico]
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Geo_Skip
WOW "woooosh" you complain more than my ex-wife's CAT! |
i guess your baseless judgement of people is why you have an ex. and who marries a cat lady? geeesh
"only dead fish go with the flow" S Palin. and if I ever quote her again- shoot me
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
S Palin. and if I ever quote her again- shoot me
[Edited on 7-16-2009 by Woooosh] |
 ---you should
be ashamed.
I do hope you get involved with this organization. They are a good group and do a lot of good. Can't change everything and can't do it over night,
but if just a few were trained, and it saved just one life, the effort would be worth it.
Diane
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
S Palin. and if I ever quote her again- shoot me
[Edited on 7-16-2009 by Woooosh] |
---you should
be ashamed.
I do hope you get involved with this organization. They are a good group and do a lot of good. Can't change everything and can't do it over night,
but if just a few were trained, and it saved just one life, the effort would be worth it.
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You are right and I fully support their efforts. Just not sure it's important to anyone in Rosarito but us gringos or they would have created a
lifeguard system. Right now they are trying to keep their police force alive. You must work within the existing Fire Deparment to create any
progress or change- the lifeguards are part of that division. That brings up another set of political challenges. Rosarito has been a tourism and
spring break capital for decades with millions of swimmers- but not enough tourists drown to make it enough of a problem to do something.
I also think you need to go slower. Let them know the benefits and resources available to them now that they have accepted the towers. Let them say
it's important to them. If you set up a system for them and they don't support and buy into- it won't be sustained and will just go away. You'd
basically end up with a satellite IB lifeguard system- you'd do all the work and they would just watch and get the good press.
They need to have their macho egos schmoozed a bit too- no one here wants gringos telling them how to run things better. No good deed goes
unpunished. Saving face here is more important than gringos who don't live here understand. People hate change and you can't go messing with the
heirarchy without them being the ones who do it.
I simply think everyone needs to set basic realistic goals within the context of Rosaritos existing framework. The Mayor can appoint a liason. My
advice to Pilgrim was to get a general plan in place, then go to Rosarito and just listen to their needs. If they don't have any needs they can
communicate- they simply are not ready to support and sustain a lifeguard program themselves yet. It's not being critical, or negative it is being
realistic. They may do it for good press alone and not follow through at all- programs have been used and tossed for propaganda before.
My nephew surfs here daily and does group presentations a lot- he'll be better at it than me (age, nationality) once we know what that role will be.
We can't foget the kids who die, including the family friend of mine who drowned here last year- which is what prompted my original reply. But we
need to have a plan that works culturally as well as logistically. Money isn't the problem, it's committment. The beach is free, the water is free,
they have the quads, they have the jetskis- what they need is comitted gards who are willing to be trained. Swim fins and buoys are cheap and the
bestguard training in the USA is already free and available for all they send to attend.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jul/16/1n16junio...
"Allyssa was halfway through the eight-week program. Training was suspended yesterday but was to resume today. Payne said she did not believe the same
boat drill would resume.
It was the first death in the 45-year history of the junior lifeguard program in Huntington Beach, a surfing mecca that bills itself as “Surf City
USA.”
According to the city's Web site, the program teaches more than 1,000 junior lifeguards each year and has attracted students from across the nation
and around the world. Payne said it is involved in an exchange program with New Zealand."
[Edited on 7-16-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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