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Cypress
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Pescador, You're a master fisherman. You have an advantage based on, if nothing else, experience and skill. And you have my respect on both
counts.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Hopefully, this will be the last year for these tournaments, I think that they have created more problems that they have helped.
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Thanks and I appreciate your take on this and your experience. I may have read it before, but I don't always remember---happens more these days.
I know you said it was about bringing locals and tourists together, but maybe, just maybe if they had been for just the locals, they might have worked
differently---don't know. Sounds like lots of problems in your area.
Since it has been almost strictly a local affair, so far, in BA, I hope if they do end, they are replaced by something. It is an event that is very
much enjoyed by many in the community---old and young alike.
But it is a good time also to play politics. 
Thanks again.
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flyfishinPam
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Pescador pretty much stated my personal sentiments. Originally these governor's cup tournaments were meant for the locals but they have morphed into
something else. a good portion of the local pangueros have lost interest in it here for reasons previously stated.
I think a better way to stimulate the tourist economy is to reduce the tax rates we pay significantly and make doing business easier than it is now.
Obviously IŽll never be a politico because that's too damned practical a solution.
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It must be the size of the community. In Abreojos and La Bocana. these are big social events... Usually coordinated with some other occasion.
Prizes are substantial (15000 pesos for a first place) and sponsored by the government, coop, Tecate etc. Because of our location, the invasion of
outsiders is small... although this minority can make fools of themselves. But all in all, I hope they continue.
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Oh and for the most vocal on this board, the next tournament is in 2051. forgot which month
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
It must be the size of the community. In Abreojos and La Bocana. these are big social events... Usually coordinated with some other occasion.
Prizes are substantial (15000 pesos for a first place) and sponsored by the government, coop, Tecate etc. Because of our location, the invasion of
outsiders is small... although this minority can make fools of themselves. But all in all, I hope they continue. |
Same has been true for Bahia Asuncion----we hope it remains so. We just fear that what we saw last year was fortelling the future
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Oh and for the most vocal on this board, the next tournament is in 2051. forgot which month |
It should be a big one with all the people we are sending your way. Abreojos. Seriously folks, Abreojos is a much better place for you to
participate in a fishing tournament---just a much better place.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Pescador pretty much stated my personal sentiments. Originally these governor's cup tournaments were meant for the locals but they have morphed into
something else. a good portion of the local pangueros have lost interest in it here for reasons previously stated.
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It is a shame they have morphed.
Maybe there should be the big open tournaments for everyone, and these left for locals only.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Oh and for the most vocal on this board, the next tournament is in 2051. forgot which month |
It should be a big one with all the people we are sending your way. Abreojos. Seriously folks, Abreojos is a much better place for you to
participate in a fishing tournament---just a much better place. |
Diane you are so cute.... but pls.... Its way too windy in PA... don't mislead these people,
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dianne...did you know that the guys you mention...opened up a sportsfishing business with the Verduzcos and a fishbuck style bar? guess they must have
liked its here after all.
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see... Now where is this bar located
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it is quite a nice palapa on the bay side...kinda on the road out to the coop at the point...cant miss it....there is a big tall BUD LIGHT sign out
front. i wonder if they will win 2nd prize again? they sure were mad when they didnt win first and third...i thought it had something to do with one
boat couldnt win more than one prize. they kept telling us they won 3rd too but I saw the big cheque with Barb's name on it so I just whistled and
rolled my eyes....yeah whatever.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
dianne...did you know that the guys you mention...opened up a sportsfishing business with the Verduzcos and a fishbuck style bar? guess they must have
liked its here after all. |
Shari,
You know very well that I am aware that they hooked up with Paco Verduzco, one we have never met, and opened the Palapa Bar, the one you said had
lots of problems the night it opened---I was not surprised at that. There are 11 Verduzcos in that one generation, some of them are our friends, but
we do not know all of them and they do not always act as one.
It still does not change my sentiments about these type of tournaments. I still would prefer to see the winnings go to the locals, including you and
Juan.
Now, a fishbuck style bar? Can you define that? Fishbuck has done a great job of slandering local Bahia Asuncion residents, but I am not sure what a
fishbuck style bar is? Please clarify.
Thanks
Diane
[Edited on 7-20-2009 by jdtrotter]
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actually dianne, I didnt know very well that you were aware of that...sorry...also some things are best left up to the imagination...wouldnt want to
slander anyone or anyplace.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
actually dianne, I didnt know very well that you were aware of that...sorry...also some things are best left up to the imagination...wouldnt want to
slander anyone or anyplace. |
Guess you do not remember our conversations about this---no problem.
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jimgrms
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I am thinking the Tourist that go to mexico to fish, fish and not worry about the tournements
and if you dosign up and happen to win divide the money into thirds 1/3 for the winner 1/3 for the guide and 1/3 for a local charity , that is a win
win win deal, after all the money is not gonna make or break any of us and makes for a lot of good will jmho i am talking about the local tournes
not the megabuck cabo style shows
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Don Alley
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I usually avoid the Loreto tournaments, but a neighbor has talked me into financing a panga and captain for a couple of the Governor's Cup tourneys. I
have some pics of one that I didn't get out on. The unique thing, and best thing, about the Governors Cup was the shore fishing divisions. That made
them the most inclusive and festive of the Loreto tournaments. I don't think Loreto needs another gringo tournament, but one for the kids and shore
fishers would be great.
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Alan
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The goals of tournaments vary as much as the people who fish in them. JD - I think it is great that you root for the locals but to say only locals
could win may defeat the goal of that specific tournament. For example, if it was to boost tourism and improve the local economy, excluding
non-locals would defeat the purpose.
Thinking that electronics give an unfair advantage isn't really accurate. It isn't simply a matter of turning on your black boxes and driving
straight to the fish to begin your harvest. In many cases it simply helps to level the playing field when you are competing against generations of
local knowledge.
Properly organized tournaments establish categories in order to test apples to apples.
In Memory of E-57
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
The goals of tournaments vary as much as the people who fish in them. JD - |
That I am seeing quite clearly from what all has been posted, and I do appreciate hearing the different thoughts and opinions. Even the same
tournaments are very different in different areas.
Don,
I agree that the shore fishing is great, especially for the kids---love your pix.
I don't think much else that is such a great activity, would get them up this early.
Diane
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Don........That's a great shot of the boats heading out after the starting gun. Soledad must be in there someplace. Last week I asked Clecerio, who
puts on the Governor's Cup torneos, if there was to be one in Loreto this year, and he said it is just a matter of the mayor asking the governor, but
as yet he has not........
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