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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
In another discussion regarding those kids and their weapons, someone once said they'd heard that they don't have loaded magazines.
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Definitly untrue. Even years back, I'd see them downtown in an Independence Day parade and you could see shiny new brass inside their clips.
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IN The Weapon ?
Shiny new cartridges visible ? How is that possible ? What outside indicator is there on a G3 ? It's not apparent to me.
Just wondering.
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Lotsa interesting contributions here. See. we can have a meaningful dialogue. 
I do wish to take exception with one entry. Bajaguy's link only deals with post-draft statististics. I continue to wonder if there would be a much
higher level of scrutiny within our borders, if a draft was taking bunches of college grads from affluent households, a la Viet nam.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Shiny new cartridges visible ? How is that possible ? What outside indicator is there on a G3 ? It's not apparent to me.
Just wondering. |
I don't know what they were. Some kind of 9mm stuff.
Twenty plus years ago, Bill and I know what I saw.
Why the test?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
if a draft was taking bunches of college grads from affluent households, a la Viet nam. |
They, for the most part, weren't taken without being given a commision. Lesser educated were issued a target on the back of their fatigues.
I know there were exceptions but, that's what they were....exceptions.
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Taking a Hike on the High Road
OK, but I know we'll never agree.
It's not clear to me that the College Protests actually affected the LENGTH of the war. They may have affected the eventual outcome and, in my
opinion, they had a Negative effect.
Unfortunately, the American people have NEVER really been in for the long haul. EVEN WWII was wearing thin at home and fund-raising was getting
troublesome. Many of our decisions, including D-Day, were influenced by the need to get things wrapped up as quickly as possible. Even Dropping Fat
Man and Little Boy was part of an Economic consideration. Le May's plan to continue leveling every possible source of war production over time was
considered too long and too expensive.
Fortunately, we didn't have an easy way out of that one.
Whatever our initial resolve, we run out of steam early on.
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We always keep a cold six-pack of some kind of Mex. pop on hand and give the whole pack to them. They just love it and its so fun to see their big
smiles. I alwaws was under the impression there guns are not loaded. That bieng said..... if you look down the road 100' or so you will always see
and older or tougher looking indiduual with a rifle on alert,standing next to a couple pf 55gal. drums filled with concrete. ++C++
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Whatever our initial resolve, we run out of steam early on. |
For sure. We do have a short attention span. Grenada, as nothing that it was, gave pride of victory to a really wanting American public. We
instantly kicked ass. A small ass but, a victory none the less.
Yankee Doodle.
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No Test
My original comment had to do with the Grunts at the Army Checkpoints.
They're carrying G3s. What others are carrying elsewhere for other purposes is another matter.
HOWEVER, it does bring up another interesting thought.
Military weapons are designed to keep dirt out of the workings. ANY portal which exposed the cartridges would allow dirt in so it "seems" unlikely.
Unlike some Magazines available on the Civilian market, I'm unaware of them using "see-through" Magazines.
But, Quien Sabe ?
[Edited on 7-17-2009 by MrBillM]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Military weapons are designed to keep dirt out of the workings. ANY portal which exposed the cartridges would allow dirt in so it "seems" unlikely.
Unlike some Magazines available on the Civilian market, I'm unaware of them using "see-through" Magazines.
But, Quien Sabe ?
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Ya had to be there. A long time ago, military marching in a parade, only half of them in uniform.
Things have changed.
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With all that's going on at the border I think they're getting enough hands on
training to satisfy anyone.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
For sure. We do have a short attention span. Grenada, as nothing that it was, gave pride of victory to a really wanting American public. We
instantly kicked burro. A small burro but, a victory none the less.
Yankee Doodle. |
Yeah, Grenada was a real military coup for the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
Many of the US military deaths were friendly fire when the airforce bombed their own guys.
Being a bully doesn't make a person right
Jingoism at its best
Don't believe everything you think....
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For the most part I think the guys @ the checkpoints are very courteous & helpful. One time I had a jeep breaking down & overheating at a
checkpoint & the guys immediately tried to find and fix the problem. I offered them money which they refused. Too bad we can't say the same for
most of the police down there. I have great pics. Of these guys under the hood.
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ahhh..... this thread reminds me of when I was a 19 y/o Machine Gunner in the Marine Corps. I remember being on liberty in Israel and seeing a
soldier who looked younger than me (i was probably 20 at the time) with an M16 on his back playing video games in the arcade at the local mall.
My point is that, there are "kids" all over the world serving their countries.
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Good point. I just guess that the older we get, the younger they look.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I've lived here for around thirty years ..... |
thirty years?!!!!!!!!!!
Wow! You have my new found respect for your alertness and keen ability to reason, at least until about 4 in the afternoon.
Ken
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Was getting a haircut a while back in the USA, the shop was full of what I thought were high school kids. Wrong! They were US Marines. Don't under
estimate those young looking military guys. When the do-do hit's the fan they'll take care of business.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Wow! You have my new found respect for your alertness and keen ability to reason, at least until about 4 in the afternoon.
Ken |
I make it a point to get all reasonable reasoning out of the way by noon. The rest of my day is dedicated to being unreasonable. Some might say,
"Over-priced." They just don't know a bargain when they see one.
OOOPS...I keep forgetting the little laughy guy..
[Edited on 7-21-2009 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Wow! You have my new found respect for your alertness and keen ability to reason, at least until about 4 in the afternoon.
Ken |
I make it a point to get all reasonable reasoning out of the way by noon. The rest of my day is dedicated to being unreasonable. Some might say,
"Over-priced." They just don't know a bargain when they see one.
OOOPS...I keep forgetting the little laughy guy..
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Is that Pacific or Mountain time?
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I have to stop myself from pinching them on the cheek and patting those cute fannys!  
Mean people suck!
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