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Don Alley
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Don........That's a great shot of the boats heading out after the starting gun. Soledad must be in there someplace. Last week I asked Clecerio, who
puts on the Governor's Cup torneos, if there was to be one in Loreto this year, and he said it is just a matter of the mayor asking the governor, but
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Interesting that the mayor hasn't asked. Seeing as how his wife won a pile of cash for DIF when she took first place last year.
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Cypress
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Tournaments. Gosh, It's competition fishing. Maybe they ought to give
plus or minus points, depending upon your race. Affirmative action fishing tournaments.
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
Don........That's a great shot of the boats heading out after the starting gun. Soledad must be in there someplace. Last week I asked Clecerio, who
puts on the Governor's Cup torneos, if there was to be one in Loreto this year, and he said it is just a matter of the mayor asking the governor, but
as yet he has not........ |
Don't know this for absolute fact, but I understand that the mayor and the governor are on opposite sides of the political fence and so the governor's
cup may not come to Loreto.
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
Don't know this for absolute fact, but I understand that the mayor and the governor are on opposite sides of the political fence and so the governor's
cup may not come to Loreto. |
Nope. Yuan Yee is a protege of Agundez. Both PRD. Very close political allies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Tournaments. Gosh, It's competition fishing. Maybe they ought to give
plus or minus points, depending upon your race. Affirmative action fishing tournaments. |
In a normal competition, everyone pays an entry fee, or has sponsors who pay into the prize money, and most of the winnings go to the winners. The
Copa Gobernador Tournaments are different in that the Government put up all of the prize money and the sponsors did things like meals, t-shirts, and
extras.
While I love to take home a pile of cash from everyone who enters in normal tournaments, I do not feel right taking home the cash in a Copa
Tournament.
So affirmative action does not describe the situation, it is more of an issue of what the money was designated for. On a normal tournament I love
to take the winnings from all entrants or pay my part and have my butt handed to me in a sling.
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flyfishinPam
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I see it that the Copa Gobernador tournaments were meant to be for morale of the guys working in the tourism and local commercial fishing industry.
So maybe something meant for morale in a sense of the military or a group working on a project may be understood by some here? If you follow me this
is what the Copa tournaments were originally all about...according to the captains (not according to me). The money is coming from a state fund that
is to be returned to the fishing communities for economic stimulation. Maybe this clears things up, maybe not. Wow you guys as Asuncion got the
governor to come to the tournament? He's not been to one of ours so far.
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shari
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That's right Pam...Sr.Agundez...our beloved governor comes here whenever he has the chance...rumour is he has some property here too and always love
his visits...even dances with the ladies and does alot of kissing!!! I believe that the first prize money is matched by the government and donated to
a worthy cause in the communities.
I heard that this years cause will be to build a local funerario which will be welcome here. Apart from that...lots of people come here from "the
outside" like guerrero negro ensenada, villages all around here to participate in the tournament and other fiesta competitions.
Last year one of our clients teamed up with sirena's novio to win the kayak race and donated the case of tecate to all of us spectators partying on
the beach....a very worthy local cause
The village is getting excited about the fiestas and there have been lots of "warm up" activities like horse races, beach events too.
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Pam
Cooler in Asuncion.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Wow you guys as Asuncion got the governor to come to the tournament? He's not been to one of ours so far. |
Governor likes Bahia Asuncion, from what we are told.
We also hear that that governor has bought property there, but then again, we also have heard that Carlos Slim is or was buying property near by, and
they there was the large European Resort people, and, and, and-----the rumors are always there.  
On edit---Shari was posting as I did---gosh, those rumors get around and it is such a big town.  
[Edited on 7-20-2009 by jdtrotter]
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flyfishinPam
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so the gobernador dances with the ladies and does a lot of kissing? well what I know I am keeping under my hat but this explains some things. how do
the husbands of the kissed ladies feel about that? mine would punch his lights out but he is originally from another state and not prd.
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shari
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it's just the traditional peck on the cheek greeting so pretty acceptable...still odd for a governator to do but a crowd pleaser.
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He also spends a lot of time in La Bocana and Punta Abreojos. Maybe the cool pacific?
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Cypress
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So a simple fishing tournament turns into some complicated situation involving families, ethnics, and economics, with all sorts of undertones. What a
world have we created for our children.
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I don't like to enter tournements. My fishing is stricitly for fun.
But the couple of tournements I have entered were for charitable causes.
So if you win or don't win shouldn't matter that much. And the prizes should just be token so people aren't tempted to cheat.
It's the big prizes that can cause the problems.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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"fishbuck style bar"
         
Maybe worthy of a franchise.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
"fishbuck style bar"
         
Maybe worthy of a franchise. |
Anouncing the 1st annual "Margaritatown" fishing tournement.
1st prize is 1 free night with...
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Don Alley
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As far as I can tell any grumbling at the Loreto Governor's Cup events has been minimal and insignificant. There are few rules, and most everyone has
a good time.
Now I believe it is becoming common for winners in tournaments in the States to have to pass a polygraph test to collect their winnings. No pass, no
prize.
Here's another true story, that happened in Montana years ago. To boost participation, a tournament released a tagged fish in the lake. If a
tournament participant caught this tagged fish, he/she wins $100,000. The way this works is the tournament buys an insurance policy. The insurance
companies are glad to write these policies, and they were very common. The odds were so low of a payout that the insurance guys felt they couldn't
lose. In fact, in this case the agent just pocketed the premium and never sent in the policy application. After all, it was just one fish in a big
lake.
Someone caught the fish. Fortunately, the soon-to-be former insurance salesman was bonded.
I think I'll stick to fishing for fun.
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