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JESSE
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Climate Change
Does anyone know where can i find info about projected Climate Changes (next 10-30yrs) for the Baja Peninsula?
Gracias.
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bajaguy
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Algore.com 
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INAH has studied kitchen middens of people using our beaches 4K + years all along our southern beaches and concluded the Indians might have occupied
this area for over a thousand years ~ before that. The ones all around our village are 30 to 60 feet above our current high water mark. Unless these
strange people ate all their meals underwater the sites become a pretty good benchmark for the future. The Indians, ancient tourists from the seas and
Amerindians all referred to suspected changes in the climate in the future in mathmatical terms = Algoreythms.
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woody with a view
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what in the algore ever happened to "GLOBAL WARMING?"
  
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Does anyone know where can i find info about projected Climate Changes (next 10-30yrs) for the Baja Peninsula?
Gracias. |
ask david k
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Alan
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You're not contemplating installing AC are you?
In Memory of E-57
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Paula
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Or ask this guy:
http://www.billmckibben.com/articles.html
I listened to a talk he gave on NPR's Alternative Radio while driving today. He discussed the need to get the carbon count in the air down from 550
ppm to 350 ppm as a starting point to save the planet. He mentioned a possible conesquence of not taking action: the rising of the oceans by several
feet before the end of the century.
The part of me that loves Montana but hates snow said YAY!!!! Montanans for Global Warming (Don Alley, president, Paula Alley, sole member) will win
out, and we will have a tropical paradise in the north!
But the part of me who spends most of the year in Baja felt a bit nervous. I'm not sure I could adjust
to life behind a snorkel mask
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David K's website. He is an expert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Does anyone know where can i find info about projected Climate Changes (next 10-30yrs) for the Baja Peninsula?
Gracias. |
Jesse,
The widely published US Gov approved IPCC 2007 Climate Forecast calls for Temperature increase 0.2 c per decade.
While many other scientists estimate Global Temp Cooling 0.1-2.0 c over the next 10-30 years.
Most reports suggest climate changes are more pronounced at higher elevations. And some areas may be cooler while others are warmer than baseline
levels. Many regions have record cooling. In either case the differences between scientists consensus toward predictions is not huge. Sea life, plants
and humans will be fine. Climate cycling change is normal phenomena.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=962453
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50B1FFD395D...
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=24023
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/quikscat-200...
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2008-01-02-florida-free...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article134634.ece
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily....
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BajaDanD
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climate change
try this link
http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php
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BMG
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I don't believe that any "projected" climate change models can be trusted. Or rather, which ones do you trust? 10-30 years from now we will have a few
people that called it right on and most that missed on their forecasts. Take your pick and get back to us in 2019.
Here is an interesting example on climate change that defies the doom & gloom predictions. According to National Geographic, much of the Sahara
region in Africa is greening up to the benefit of millions living there. article
I think the world is run by C- students.
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JESSE
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I am not trying to figure out if its true or not, i just want to see some models.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
I am not trying to figure out if its true or not, i just want to see some models. |
http://www.playboy.com for starters..........
[Edited on 8-11-2009 by woody in ob]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
I am not trying to figure out if its true or not, i just want to see some models. |
Some models will no doubt show warming, some will show cooling, some will have no change. Take your pick. Depending on where in Baja you are
interested in, at least one of them will be right. That's why it's now called "climate change". Although 10-30 years is a very small window. In
1979 could anyone have predicted that the "climate" in Baja would be like now? Is there really any change form 1979? What is the climate in Baja
anyway? Is it the conditions in TJ? Ensenada? La Paz? the 9,000+' San Pedro Martir? Mulege?
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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Try http://www.climatedepot.com
they do have the charts but also have the disputed information. Actually, most of the scientists concur that we have been, and continue to be in a
global cooling period which show an overall lowering of .02 degrees F. for 2008, which is projected to last 2023.
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It's already feeling like fall up here in the north woods.
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Since air conditioning Jesse's restaurant would be quite a trick, I'd bet that probably the single most important issue for Baja regarding climate
change would be the sea level. Just read the other day that glaciers appear to be melting at an increased rate. So, those oceanfront lots may just
become part of the ocean.
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David K
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Okay... enough already!
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Since air conditioning Jesse's restaurant would be quite a trick, I'd bet that probably the single most important issue for Baja regarding climate
change would be the sea level. Just read the other day that glaciers appear to be melting at an increased rate. So, those oceanfront lots may just
become part of the ocean. |
At an 'increased rate'? Have they been melting (and not re-freezing elsewhere) at all? The sea lever has been static the past 50 years...
*In-other-words, places that got wet during highest tides are still getting wet ONLY during the highest tides.
One can see the 'sameness' along Bahia Concepcion where the homes, palapas and old road (from the 1950's) at sea level are still at sea level... and
not under sea level.
I would also mention the tidal flats and beach below San Felipe are also no deeper underwater after all these years... but Concepcion is a rock coast
and the excuse about sand buildup keeping the beach above water doesn't apply there.
The sky isn't falling and Nature is more powerful than man... RELAX and don't buy into the hysteria, as it only serves to make has-been politicians
rich and give government more power over you with NO change other than what is natural change.
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JESSE
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We are in August here in La Paz and the weather has been surprisingly nice at night, going down to the high 70´s. Last years at this time it was hell.
I am just curious as to the posibilities.
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