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Skipjack Joe
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Don Alley:
130 grayling (catch and release) in 3 hours with the adams last month (2 people).
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baitcast
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Where you been Igor?
Rob
Been missing your input guy!
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Skipjack Joe
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I was in the Denali area this year, Rob.
But seriously, the parachute adams is also the best all around fly in our sierras when there is no hatch occuring.
Drop it down to a size 18 and it catches bluegills like no other.
Trout sipping midges? No problem - go down to a size 20-22 and use the plain adams.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by baitcast
A tough question if we are considering both salt and fresh water,would be better if there were two.
But that not being the case I would say you can,t go wrong with a standard top water Rapala followed by a K/M kastmaster,the K/M comes in
sizes 1/16 up 4 onces so can be used in many applications salt and fresh,the trout and spiny-ray familys love them,in the surf they can,t be beat,many
in-shore love them as well.
Love the question and the answers should be enlighting.
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Thanks baitcast, I posed the question as such to see what each angler would pick as best for BOTH fresh and saltwater... to highlight those
particular lures..why they work... and hopefully impart some helpful info for those poor souls who chase fish. I rotate between fresh and salt with
the seasons..and carry the same lures to each. Too damn cheap to buy 2 tackle boxes, I guess.
I love Kastmasters and usually can get them very high in trees along certain salmon rivers.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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baitcast
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 Good one,been in the trees a time or two,
Rob
Thats another reason I like them so much distance is not a problem,or can be jigged staight up and down,very versatile
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Pompano
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Don & Igor,
Great flies, wet & dry. I used a few to good affect earlier this summer. Fished Montana's Madison, Big Horn, and Upper Bow in Alberta. Will post
some pics here..after I relabel them 'Baja'. Cutthroats Up North loved the Mepps spinners and also took dry flies..hatch or no.
I use the megalures quite a bit, and also the darts by Point Wilson. Got them from 1 - 6 oz, but seem to use the 4 oz the most. One good feature on
these is that you can bend them to wobble more on the drop..or retrieve. One particular rockpile off Pt. Teresa will almost surely yeild a nice
grouper or brownie on that green Wilson dart. Can't wait to get back there and try it again.
edit to add: Don, you are right. About 95% of my dart hookups are on the drop, not jigging up. Also great for getting a quick pinto dinner in the
boat. So easy...I think a Norwegian could do it.
[Edited on 8-26-2009 by Pompano]
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DrTom
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the best lure?
is a shameless "plug" by the author.... a lot of baja stuff tho
http://www.amazon.com/How-Fish-Work-Thomas-Sholseth/dp/15718...
[Edited on 8-26-2009 by DrTom]
[Edited on 8-26-2009 by DrTom]
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baitcast
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Cutthroats and easternbrooks were a big family favorites mainly because they were pigs and very dumb,Dad would say "If it aint a trout its just not
worth your time or effort"
Rob
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Good additon, Dr Tom. Any good book is also a 'lure'.
baitcast...cutthroats are the 'pintos' of the trout family. Dumb as stumps, but fun nevertheless. They will hit this Mepps 2-3 times in a row...what
a blast.
Surely one of the top lures. Depending on size, will catch grayling to tarpon...muskies to barrucuda.
[Edited on 8-26-2009 by Pompano]
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taoswheat
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A simple lead head jig with Marabou for fresh water and hair or heavy feathers for salt water. They catch most warm water fish and you can troll, jig,
or surf cast and catch any feeding fish.
Don't know if it is the best but it is simple and reliable.
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baitcast
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Mepps they were the first lure my Dad ever used" don,t know why they try an eat
those but the damn things really work" I was with him the day he first tried them,he went out the next day and bought a dozen
Rob
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Here's some of my favorites. Of course since the panga's gone my favorites are different now. crocodiles then rapala's then scampi's now for
inshore via the "Got Soap?"
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A little help
| Quote: | Originally posted by baitcast
A tough question if we are considering both salt and fresh water,would be better if there were two.
But that not being the case I would say you can,t go wrong with a standard top water Rapala followed by a K/M kastmaster,the K/M comes in
sizes 1/16 up 4 onces so can be used in many applications salt and fresh,the trout and spiny-ray familys love them,in the surf they can,t be beat,many
in-shore love them as well.
Love the question and the answers should be enlighting.
Rob |
Will be going down to La Mision in Oct. and would like to get a line wet... surf fishing only.. I can't cast very well any more after back surgery,
but looking to get out and try a little.
Up here I used, blood worms most of the time, they say on and lower the amount of casts I have to try...
Any suggestions on bait for surf fishing... in the area.. years ago used just use mussles off the rocks for perch with fresh water gear, but will
just be sitting now.
Thanks for any suggestions for surf fishing bait, and where to get. 
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Skipjack Joe
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Mepps
... was my first love too. I had a canoe float on the Shenandoah one summer catching smallmouths on Mepps that I'll never forget. They just hammered
them. They went one way and the canoe went the other.
Thought I would add this - the Hexbar!
Not a world-class lure but works great for something that's just a bar of metal. Used to be my favorite lingcod lure. Just cast it updrift and drift
over it while bouncing it off the bottom. The brightness and clanging on the rocks really get's their attention (the ad says it rings their dinnerbell
:lol .
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
baitcast...cutthroats are the 'pintos' of the trout family. Dumb as stumps, but fun nevertheless. They will hit this Mepps 2-3 times in a row...what
a blast.
Surely one of the top lures. Depending on size, will catch grayling to tarpon...muskies to barrucuda.
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I haven't fished for rainbows in a long time but that Mepps lure sure brought back some great memories from up along the Kern river...
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DrTom
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for some reason in the back of my mind, when i was researching the book, the most productive lure over time (like the past 80 yrs) was the red and
white daredevl
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Skeet/Loreto
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SALTWATER--- 8 Oz. Salas Blue and White Jig
Freshwater-- Pheobe- Bold or Silver
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wsdunc
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My choices have already shown up on the list:
from the baja beach
Kastmasters gold or chrome 2'-3"
Crocodiles 3"-4" chrome with a color stripe
From the boat
Trolling feathers 4"-6" (stacked for bigger fish)
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Russ
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wessongroup,
http://www.scsurffishing.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2&st...
is a great surf fishing site for So. Ca. Your old methods are still really good.
Since you'll be relaxing in a chair I might suggest an 8'+ spinning rig w/ 15# test,
sinkers 2-4oz in flat, for rocky areas & pyramid for the sand. There are pre-tied rigs that have swivels at both ends and 2 hook loops. Makes
changing hooks and weights easy. I like muscles the best for bait but squid will stay on longer. There's always sand crabs too. I'm not familiar with
La Mision but I'd think halibut might still be in during your time there. Good luck!
Bad backs suck!
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Phoebes and yellowjackets for the High Sierras.
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Roger, try these on the Oregon Coast Steelies:
and of course the Corky is the best lure
In Baja it's crocs and curlies.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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