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wessongroup
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Don't know why
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You don,t want to go back! thats just about all I got now is memories,can,t find anyone around here to go with me,afraid of bandits I guess and can,t
be to far from thier doctors and my wife is afraid I might get kidnapped got no
money now so that would be a waste of someones time.
O me things have got to get better
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Don't why but, your post struck a funny bone, I can't keep from laughing...
The "Golden Years Suck" saw that on a bumber sticker about 25 years ago, and didn't really appreciate it until about know... still laughing.. if I
missed spell something, please forgive.. I'm bad...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by baitcast
A tough question if we are considering both salt and fresh water,would be better if there were two.
But that not being the case I would say you can,t go wrong with a standard top water Rapala followed by a K/M kastmaster,the K/M comes in
sizes 1/16 up 4 onces so can be used in many applications salt and fresh,the trout and spiny-ray familys love them,in the surf they can,t be beat,many
in-shore love them as well.
Love the question and the answers should be enlighting.
Rob |
Will be going down to La Mision in Oct. and would like to get a line wet... surf fishing only.. I can't cast very well any more after back surgery,
but looking to get out and try a little.
Up here I used, blood worms most of the time, they say on and lower the amount of casts I have to try...
Any suggestions on bait for surf fishing... in the area.. years ago used just use mussles off the rocks for perch with fresh water gear, but will
just be sitting now.
Thanks for any suggestions for surf fishing bait, and where to get. |
Drop me a U2U and I'll tell you where the best surf-cast spot is in La Mision.
Been watching it for years, and no one has come within 100 yards of it.
Udo
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woody with a view
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berkley GULP sandcrabs in the "new penny" color. or else dig some real sand crabs....
GUARANTEED!
P.S. if you can give any info on where REAL blood worms are to be harvested we'd appreciate it. we use to buy them in ventura and were guaranteed big
corv/bina at pt. mugu and along the silver strand....
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by woody in ob]
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Iflyfish
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Wiggle Wart, Magnum Wiggle Wart, Wee Wart, Original color...Tiger 074
Chinook and Coho Salmon, Steelhead, Walleye, Small and Large Mouth Bass, Magnum good trolling in Baja.
Iflfyish
http://www.stormlures.com/products/luresdetail.cfm?modelName...
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wessongroup
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Blood worms
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
berkley GULP sandcrabs in the "new penny" color. or else dig some real sand crabs....
GUARANTEED!
P.S. if you can give any info on where REAL blood worms are to be harvested we'd appreciate it. we use to buy them in ventura and were guaranteed big
corv/bina at pt. mugu and along the silver strand....
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by woody in ob] |
Used to get them from a guy in Dana Point, in a small strip mall right behind the Carl's Jr, when coming into Dana Point from South bound 5, across
from the State Beach ... He had them flown in from the east coast as I remember... as many times we had to wait for delivery.. used to be the "bait".
Alwasy liked them for bait casting, as once you got the little suckers on the hook, they did not come off.. but they did bite..
Don't know if he is still there it's been years since I have been surf fishing.
I'll check out the Berkley Gulp, never heard of that before..
Thanks all
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by wessongroup]
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Magnum Wiggle Wart, Original color...Tiger 074... good trolling in Baja.
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Are you kidding us here? I've never thought of using these.
Change the hooks to saltwater?
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fishing lures
What "lures" me to fishing....
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Iflyfish
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Are you kidding us here? I've never thought of using these.
Change the hooks to saltwater?
Yup, change the hooks, fish love 'em.
Iflfyish
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wessongroup
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Wow
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What "lures" me to fishing....
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No arguments here.. thanks have not seen that area in a long time, is it on the Owens River above Crowley?
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Santiago
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From My Collection.....
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Heddon TadPolly Spook
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Sputter Bug
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Heddon Lucky 13
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Heddon Crazy Crawler & Tiny Crawler
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Bomber Water Dog (note grin on face of lure )
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Biggest Super-Duper I've ever seen!
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stimbo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by stimbo
What "lures" me to fishing....
No arguments here.. thanks have not seen that area in a long time, is it on the Owens River above Crowley? |
Wow! Very good. That's exactly where this was taken. |
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Taco de Baja
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With all the lures out there one really has to wonder if they are designed to catch fish? Or, the fisherman's wallet?
Probably the fisherman's wallet. Try searching for "fishing lure" on ebay. Ooooh look at the colors!
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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wessongroup
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Fishing
| Quote: | Originally posted by stimbo
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by stimbo
What "lures" me to fishing....
No arguments here.. thanks have not seen that area in a long time, is it on the Owens River above Crowley? |
Wow! Very good. That's exactly where this was taken. |
Have got a few lunkers too... using a "Green Rostertail" working along the banks and hellgrammites when able.
A really alluring place .... yeah, pretty bad attempt.. but it's early
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wessongroup
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Blood worms
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
berkley GULP sandcrabs in the "new penny" color. or else dig some real sand crabs....
GUARANTEED!
P.S. if you can give any info on where REAL blood worms are to be harvested we'd appreciate it. we use to buy them in ventura and were guaranteed big
corv/bina at pt. mugu and along the silver strand....
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by woody in ob] |
Just did a search, they are from back East...
Here is a link; http://www.mainebait.com/bloodworm.html
Prices for shipping $15.00(2&5doz) & $20(10doz) for
UPS ground 2 - 3 day S&H:
Not bad, right to your house... we used to pay $7.50 per dozen at the bait store.. my wife won't even let me put these in the refrigerator or the ice
chest where the food is, has to be in my beer ice chest.
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Allure
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With all the lures out there one really has to wonder if they are designed to catch fish? Or, the fisherman ...
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This one's designed to catch the fisherman.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
berkley GULP sandcrabs in the "new penny" color. or else dig some real sand crabs....
GUARANTEED!
P.S. if you can give any info on where REAL blood worms are to be harvested we'd appreciate it. we use to buy them in ventura and were guaranteed big
corv/bina at pt. mugu and along the silver strand....
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by woody in ob] |
Just did a search, they are from back East...
Here is a link; http://www.mainebait.com/bloodworm.html
Prices for shipping $15.00(2&5doz) & $20(10doz) for
UPS ground 2 - 3 day S&H:
Not bad, right to your house... we used to pay $7.50 per dozen at the bait store.. my wife won't even let me put these in the refrigerator or the ice
chest where the food is, has to be in my beer ice chest.
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a guy once told me you need to take a flat pry bar and at LOW tide find some rocks covered with mussels. when you scrape the mat of mussels from the
rock you should find the bloodworms intertwined with the mat of mussels. was
wondering if anyone else had a place/method for getting them in the wild?
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wessongroup
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Worms
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
berkley GULP sandcrabs in the "new penny" color. or else dig some real sand crabs....
GUARANTEED!
P.S. if you can give any info on where REAL blood worms are to be harvested we'd appreciate it. we use to buy them in ventura and were guaranteed big
corv/bina at pt. mugu and along the silver strand....
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by woody in ob] |
Just did a search, they are from back East...
Here is a link; http://www.mainebait.com/bloodworm.html
Prices for shipping $15.00(2&5doz) & $20(10doz) for
UPS ground 2 - 3 day S&H:
Not bad, right to your house... we used to pay $7.50 per dozen at the bait store.. my wife won't even let me put these in the refrigerator or the ice
chest where the food is, has to be in my beer ice chest.
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a guy once told me you need to take a flat pry bar and at LOW tide find some rocks covered with mussels. when you scrape the mat of mussels from the
rock you should find the bloodworms intertwined with the mat of mussels. was
wondering if anyone else had a place/method for getting them in the wild? |
For what it's worth, from a 2001 State of California Fish and Game report,
Investigations into the Introduction of Non-indigenous Marine Organisms ...
Introduction
Two species of marine polychaetes, Nereis virens Sars1 ("pileworms"2) and Glycera dibranchiata
Ehlers ("bloodworms"3), are imported into California in large numbers from the U.S. East Coast to
be sold as fishing bait. The worms arrive by air freight, in shallow cardboard boxes packed with
Atlantic coastal seaweeds, primarily Ascophyllum nodosum (Linnaeus) Le Jolis. Other living algae,
fungi, invertebrates and protozoans from the Atlantic coast have been found in these boxes after
their arrival in California, and a significant portion of these exotic organisms are regularly released
into the California marine environment, where a few have apparently become established. The goal
of this project is to provide a qualitative and quantitative assessment of the diversity and abundance
of non-indigenous marine organisms imported and released into San Francisco Bay via the trade in
marine baitworms. This project builds on two previous studies by report co-authors.
Just a little information on where you might want look... they probably have them plotted on maps and in data bases...
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Never mind the bloodworms. The Berkley Gulp worms and the sand crabs work virtually as good. You can cut up the worms and just use sections.
At La Mision, I've had the best luck towards the north end where the new development is. I found that there were more corbina over at that end
compared to the end over by the marina entrance. There are some rocks in the water at the north end.
I dont know about the "best" lure ever. But if I was stranded on a deserted ocean island and had just one lure, it would probably be a Kroc. There is
just nothing to fail on them and they catch a huge variety of fish. And you can cast them far. Probably second would be a Kastmaster.
For trolling open ocean, I ALWAYS pull a cedar plug. Generally, I have better luck with the purp/black ones.
For mountain stream or lake fishing, I am a big fan of Mepps spinners. Their spinning mechanism is superior to the others; they spin better at slow
retrieves and they dont get hung up on themselves.
On the rare times I use flies, it's usually a bubble/fly combo and the king for me is a green-bodied mosquito or a regular mosquito pattern. That's
the hatch that ALWAYS seems to be going on in the mtns.
[Edited on 8-27-2009 by Hook]
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bloodworms
Woody is right. Bloodworms are part of the musselbed community. They live amongst those 'hairs' with which mussels attach themselves to the rocks.
However, you need to remove a lot of mussels to get a few worms. It's really a waste unless you plan to eat them (make sure it's not during the
quarantine months).
Polychaetes ("bloodworms") are a really large group of animals that live in many other habitats besides musselbeds but that's one of the easiest place
to get them. Some are buried in the sand you walk on on the beach.
Berkeley Gulp look like bloodworms and smell like them. They're soaked in some sort of solution that fish find appealing. They stay on the hook real
well, also.
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Oh well! Guess worms, wigglers or night crawlers, will work best for most fresh water species. Salt water? Bigger worms!
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