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David K
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MMMMMM MEXICALI BEER IS MMMMMMM GOOD!
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grmpb
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guess i'ma snob after a trip to england many years ago. are there any mexican ales?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's 68. I won't be 69 for a few years.... |
DENNIS I absolutely love that comment. Can I steal it from you?  ++Ken++
carpe diem!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
DENNIS I absolutely love that comment. Can I steal it from you? ++Ken++
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Consider it your birthday present, Ken.
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Pacifico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
Does anyone know if Carta Blanca still bottles their beer in those little bottles with the opener on the bottom? I haven't been able to find those in
quite a while......... |
Dennis, You gotta have the answer to this.........
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grmpb
guess i'ma snob after a trip to england many years ago. are there any mexican ales? |
I don't know the technical difference but, many many years back, Bohemia was exported to the states and on the box it said Ale. Perhaps it still
does.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
Does anyone know if Carta Blanca still bottles their beer in those little bottles with the opener on the bottom? I haven't been able to find those in
quite a while......... |
Dennis, You gotta have the answer to this......... |
Still does. I've seen them recently but, I'll confirm that tomorrow.
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mulegemichael
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the beer in my heyday in the NW was "BEER" beer...that was the label...creative, huh?..we bought tons of it as it was dirt cheap...had to look for
your brain the next morning...and..why is corona so skunky when pacifico is most of us folks favorite and aren't they brewed in the same
brewery???..was that a question?...and...el candil in mulege now has modelo negro and modelo regular on tap..served in a frosted mug..you do the math.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Pacifico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pacifico
Does anyone know if Carta Blanca still bottles their beer in those little bottles with the opener on the bottom? I haven't been able to find those in
quite a while......... |
Dennis, You gotta have the answer to this......... |
Still does. I've seen them recently but, I'll confirm that tomorrow. |
Thanks Dennis!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
why is corona so skunky when pacifico is most of us folks favorite and aren't they brewed in the same brewery???.. |
No way. Pacifico is brewed in Mazatlán and I think Corona is brewed in Pico Rivera...or Hell.
At the Pacifico brewery, they used to have a huge beer garden with a half dozen Mariachi bands playing all over the place and a big mug of Pacifico
draft cost a half peso, four cents.
I've asked here in the past if it's still there but haven't heard a real answer.
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Cear bottles and light produce skunky beer.
UNC chemists figure out what causes ‘skunky beer’
CHAPEL HILL – Many people think beer tastes bad all the time, while others, who enjoy the alcoholic malt beverage, believe it turns "skunky" only when
it isn’t handled properly.
Now chemists at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill say they have figured out precisely what goes wrong with beer to give it that
offensive "light-struck" flavor.
"Historically, beer has been stored in brown or green bottles to protect hop-derived compounds from light in a process we call photodegradation," said
Dr. Malcolm D. Forbes, professor of chemistry.
"Hops help flavor beer, inhibit bacterial growth and are largely responsible for the stability of the foam in the head," Forbes said. "Hops, however,
are light-sensitive, and the three main compounds in them identified as being light-sensitive are called isohumulones. When attacked by either visible
or ultraviolet light, these break down to make reactive intermediates known as free radicals that lead to the offensive taste and skunky odor."
Using isohumulones supplied by brewing companies and a sophisticated technique called time-resolved electron paramagnetic resonance spectroscopy, the
UNC scientists and colleagues determined what happens chemically during photo degradation. Lasers served as the light source for producing the
chemical reactions they studied.
"This light problem is a phenomenon that was reported in the literature as early as 1875, but until now the detailed mechanism has not been
unraveled," Forbes said. "The final product of the reaction turns out to be what we call "skunky thiol," an analog of a compound found in skunk glands
that produces a very bad taste and smell. This molecule has an extremely low taste and smell threshold in humans, just a few parts per trillion."
A report on the findings will appear in the Nov. 5 issue of a publication called Chemistry - A European Journal and appeared online this weeek.
Besides Forbes, authors are UNC chemistry doctoral student Colin S. Burns and Dr. Denis De Keukeleire and his doctoral student Arne Heyerick of the
University of Gent in Belgium.
The new paper describes how the team succeeded in creating the free radicals, working out their structure, explaining reactions that made them and
learning precisely where in the isohumulone compounds photo breakdown takes place.
"Understanding mechanisms behind changes in beer tastes is important because the world beer industry is hoping to save money by storing, shipping and
selling beer in less expensive clear glass," Forbes said. "Producers of Miller Genuine Draft, for example, already do that by adding a chemically
modified hop compound to the beer. We have found evidence that Miller beer is still photochemically active, but it doesn’t make the same free
radicals, and so those can’t lead to bad-tasting skunky thiols as quickly."
Corona beer also is sold in clear bottles, but manufacturers do not used a modified hop product, he said. Instead, they usually keep their bottles
boxed to exclude light and encourage drinkers to add a slice of lime to improve the odor.
"Corona is marketed extremely cleverly," the chemist said.
Forbes’ laboratory is one of the most sophisticated in the world for studying super-fast radical reactions that take place in billionths of seconds.
His Belgian collaborators have applied for a patent on a process that will alter and retard the photochemistry of beer to make the beverage easier to
store and give it a longer shelf life.
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The National Science Foundation, the Interbrew-Baillet Latour Foundation of Leuven, Belgium, and the UNC chemistry department supported the research.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
why is corona so skunky when pacifico is most of us folks favorite and aren't they brewed in the same brewery???.. |
Very few beers are bottled in clear glass like Corona and Sol (yuk). Maybe exposure to light has something to do with it. BTW, I've had some skunky
Pacifico too. The ballenas seem to taste better for some reason. Different brewery??
I buy Tecate for daily consumption, Dos Equis lager when in a bar/restaurant. Pacifico if neither of the two others are available.
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Ricardo
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OOPS I meant CLEAR Bottles
Rick
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ricardo
We have found evidence that Miller beer is still photochemically active, but it doesn’t make the same free radicals, and so those can’t lead to
bad-tasting skunky thiols as quickly."
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As long as I can recall, Miller Hi Life has had a bad odor and a bad reputation.
Good article....Thanks.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ricardo
We have found evidence that Miller beer is still photochemically active, but it doesn’t make the same free radicals, and so those can’t lead to
bad-tasting skunky thiols as quickly."
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As long as I can recall, Miller Hi Life has had a bad odor and a bad reputation.
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Miller High Life, the Champagne of Bottled Beers. I drank that and used on my Corn Flakes for awhile because it was the cheapest at the corner store
and tasted OK to me.
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mulegemichael
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i still like miller genuine draft in a can when in a boat fishing for chinook in the pacific nw.
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I've had a few different experiances with Skunky Beer,
Beer in a brown bottle when exposed to the sun will still get skunky,
I've forced myself to drink it on occasion. Put it it in a cold but suuny stream and yes it still gets Skunky. A glass of beer sitting in the sun will
get skunky. Corona in a Can tastes totally different than Corona in a clear bottle. Most beers that come in clear bottles are now packaged in cases
that protect them from the sun and light ( at least where I live). Light is the problem. Canned beers aren't Skunky.
Rick
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The best beer anywhere, founded in 1397, yup, that's right, 1397. I used to drink it in a bar that served in glass mugs kept in the freezer with a
thin slice of lemon floated on top.
http://www.spatenusa.com/
Make sure to check this page:
http://www.spatenusa.com/3_products/3_4_beer_health/index.ht...
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I think I know what your problem is, Rick. Don't let your beer sit around. Pick it up and drink it like it's the last day of your life. Your
treatment of beer is bordering on alcohol abuse. 
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Some people might think that, Ha Ha, I just cracked a Miller Genuine Draft in a clear bottle, not too bad but it was in a sealed case and straight to
the fridge. Trust me those basketball team fund raisers know where to come on a bottle/can drive so, I think I'm OK with the abuse issue.In Mexico I
drink Pacifico or whatever is available
Rick
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