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capt. mike
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quick chill method
i learned this from a couple sitting around a jacuzzi in Laughlin NV during the river run MC expo a few years ago when i still rode.
he had a little 6 pack case with ice cold beer.
this will conserve ice as you chill em on an as needed basis.
it's the home made ice cream concept.
he puts the beers in the small case, tops them with cubes or crushed then pours course kosher salt over the top.
the ice melts fast due to the salt and it quick chills the beer - almost to freezing if you don't monitor it. - due to the heat exchange precept.
it works fantastically. i do it all the time now when i need to quick cool a bottle of chard. or beer. or reposado........
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David K
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Great idea Mike! Shalom!!
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woody with a view
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anyone wanna veer off topic and hazard a guess on pouring out the water?
i say leave enough water to cover your stuff as long as the trapped air in the cooler is hotter than the water inside.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
anyone wanna veer off topic and hazard a guess on pouring out the water?
i say leave enough water to cover your stuff as long as the trapped air in the cooler is hotter than the water inside. |
There have been studies... On page 61 of 'Shifting into 4WD' by Harry Lewellyn he states it is best to keep ice from contacting the melted water...
Since we usually don't have room for both in the same chest (ice and melted water without touching), we drain the melted water away.
It confirms what my dad had always believed when camping... However, for cold drinks and if you have a seperate chest for drinks... the melted water
with the ice will keep the cans colder
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Frank
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The melt water is warmer then the ice, but I always leave some in there.
Now you could combine Capt. Mikes info along with what we do on the boat. We mix seawater with our ice to rapidly chill the Tuna, almost to freezing.
Sit on the beach with a small cooler of ice and your favorite beverage, add some seawater to the cooler and enjoy.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Frank
The melt water is warmer then the ice, but I always leave some in there.
Now you could combine Capt. Mikes info along with what we do on the boat. We mix seawater with our ice to rapidly chill the Tuna, almost to freezing.
Sit on the beach with a small cooler of ice and your favorite beverage, add some seawater to the cooler and enjoy. |
and how long will this keep the tuna cold? if you were to refill with fresh/salt water and ice every 24 hours? just wondering how to keep fish fresh
if a freezer isn't available for 3-4 days. a vacuum sealer will be part of the program as it keeps the water and oxygen away from the fish....
any ideas?
[Edited on 10-4-2009 by woody in ob]
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we have a dc cooler that holds a half a rack...plug it into our cigarette lighter; gets the cerveza real cold....no melted ice, no water, no
hassle...keep your beer at room temp until an hour before you want a cold one then transfer to the cooler...i think we got it at walmart a few years
ago...don't leave home without it
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woody with a view
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great! how much tuna filets will it hold?
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Salted water (more-so in sufficient concentration ie 15-18%) will lower the temp of the ice and make the ice last longer. Freeze the ice in milk jugs
and surround with regular ice. The colder salt ice will help the other ice last longer as it is colder. Freeze the whole cooler and all contents for
at least 1 full day before you leave if possible. Also, those foil cooler insulating bags will help.
If you place your fish in a cooler with fresh ice andf then salt the ice, this lowers the ice temp for as long as it lasts. You will have to
replentish the ice often unless the ice is in a freezer. Otherwise this is only good for quick freezing or if you have lots of ice.
The trick for longer lasting ice when traveling is to freeze the salt ice (and the cooler if possible) to it's lower temp in a freezer before use.
[Edited on 10-4-2009 by Diver]
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Fred
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So most of do not know where to buy blocks of ices in Baja.
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woody with a view
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i resurrected this thread to get a grip on if there is no freezer available, then will the salt/water route keep fish fresh if the fish is vacuum
sealed? ice will not be a problem to restock the cooler. i guess i could just keep the filets packed in ice, but ......
any other ideas as we'll be possibly w/out a freezer for 3-4 days and will be fishing the first 1-2 days. we might only catch a buzz, maybe the fish
won't wanna die!
[Edited on 10-4-2009 by woody in ob]
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larryC
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Back in my camping days, we would spend 2 weeks at animas every Easter. In preparation for that trip I would take a 70 qt. Igloo cooler and put it
into my chest freezer at home in San Diego. Every day or 2 I would pour 2 or so gallons into the cooler and let it freeze solid. I did this till it
was completely full and then I closed the lid and let it sit for another day or 2 till we left on out trip. Once at Animas the cooler was buried in
the sand in the shade of my awning. after a week of so when we started running out of ice I would dig up the cooler and use its ice to refill my other
coolers. In a week only about 10% of the ice had melted. Problem is you need a dedicated chest freezer and 2 men and a boy to help lift the cooler out
of the freezer. Now I just use a dometic freezer and a 5 gallon propane tank. Turning the freezers thermostat to its warmest setting will keep the
temp in the mid 30s. Much easier.
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Martyman
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Block ice is available everywhere in baja. Go into a store and buy it. Why are we discussing this?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
anyone wanna veer off topic and hazard a guess on pouring out the water?
i say leave enough water to cover your stuff as long as the trapped air in the cooler is hotter than the water inside. |
What I concluded after much debate with others was that for short trips, or cool season travel, where you will have ice left til the end of the trip,
drain the ice chest--it will keep it a little cooler and you won't have sloshing on bad roads.
For longer trips or in warm season travelling keep the water in the ice chest--even if the ice is all melted you still have cool water. One
additional caveat is that if you don't drain the ice chest you have a backup water supply for emergencies, although you may have to boil it.
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Barry A.
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We used to stay on the beach at Bahia Animas for 12 day stays at a time, usually in Oct. or Nov.. We took 2 normal size coolers, one chocked full of
multible 25 lb block ice, and the other with one 25lb block and pre-cooled food and drink, using ice from the ice-only cooler to restock the
food/beverage cooler as needed. We had an insert that kept the food out of the water.
We drained the coolers each and every day very early in the morning, using the cold water from them to pre-cool our beer in a wash pan, and then put
it in the chest with the least ice.
This way we always had ice (and cold beer) for 9 days, and by then we were dedicated beach bums and would just drink warm beer day 11 & 12------I
am British, you know, and we like our beer warm sometimes. 
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DENNIS
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I posted this link earlier in this thread. From what I understand, this cooler will keep ice solid for around two weeks. It's supposed to be the
most efficient cooler on the market. If one can judge by the price, it's a really good cooler.
Research it through Google.
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Barry A.
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Wow, Dennis-------that is a really cool cooler!!! worth every penny if it does what it claims to do.
Many thanks. I want one!!!!!
Barry
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Fred
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
Block ice is available everywhere in baja. Go into a store and buy it. Why are we discussing this? |
I can name 117 places that I stopped at, that DO NOT carry block ice in Baja.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Fred
I can name 117 places that I stopped at, that DO NOT carry block ice in Baja. |
Not THOSE places, Fred.  We all know THEY don't sell ice.
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One word-FridgeFreeze check em out at "http://fridgefreeze.com/ have two different sized units in two different Baja vehicles, don't stop
ticking..and you can make your own ice at 115 degrees F + if you want to...all off of 12 volt
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